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NORMALOPS , 09-01-2020 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HavanaExpress73

Even if they are supposed to, they probably wont, and act surprised when called out. Just like with everything else they do. A few names have already disappeared from the bid qual, even after everyone is supposed to come back from LOAs starting September. So as I've said earlier, I'm sure they are hoping that the new bases and impossible QOL will thin the herd a bit without them having to do anything.

EXACTLY.
As with the Airline complying with the regs. These guys will try their best to go around, go under, and contort the rules as not to be in compliance. As I have already said, iAERO needed to rid the company of that mentality, that leadership. If the company cannot operate with competent management people, people with integrity, not pressuring their Pilots, Mechanics, F/A's to go around the regs as a significanf part of their business plan, then we will continue to be in trouble.
Don't hold your breath expecting those two, ( yes you know who they are ) to do the right thing when no one is watching. They have already pressured people to take a LOA, min pay...then got the CARES ACT money.
REAL SLICK

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NORMALOPS , 09-01-2020 09:56 AM

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Oops.... Did I forget to mention that the ballance of longevity bonus is due in September. Don't hold your breath, you definitely will suffocate. They will find a way to wiggle out of that as well.

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mexipilot84 , 09-01-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NORMALOPS

Oops.... Did I forget to mention that the ballance of longevity bonus is due in September. Don't hold your breath, you definitely will suffocate. They will find a way to wiggle out of that as well.

If holiday pay has been canceled for months a bonus is highly unlikely. No point in working holidays.

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PilotnotPirate , 09-01-2020 10:13 AM

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Oops.... Did I forget to mention that the ballance of longevity bonus is due in September. Don't hold your breath, you definitely will suffocate. They will find a way to wiggle out of that as well.

That went away with the pay raise, they tried to explain it that you were getting the bonus early as it was incorporated into the pay raise

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NORMALOPS , 09-01-2020 10:48 AM

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That went away with the pay raise, they tried to explain it that you were getting the bonus early as it was incorporated into the pay raise

NO, It Did Not. Go back and read the memo carefully. There was a ballance due for most of us. The 10K was pro rated. Mexi should stop making excuses for them. They got the 20 million in CARES ACT money. They definitely need to complete that obligation. But then again, the mansion in MIA needs to be paid for doesn't it. Ask them about their payout, voluntary or otherwise.

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hoover , 09-01-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucifer

That must have been decades ago. They've had to file WARN notices since 1988 for companies with over 100 servants. A 60 day notice (commonly called a WARN notice after the law that requires it) must be given prior to layoff/furlough.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/eta/layoffs/warn

Now the doom & gloom part (for the glass half empty folks)
For companies with less than 50 total layoffs, and a few other exemptions.... like:

Faltering company: When, before a plant closing, a company is actively seeking capital or business and reasonably, in good faith, believes that advance notice would preclude its ability to obtain such capital or business, and this new capital or business would allow the employer to avoid or postpone the shutdown for a reasonable period;

Unforeseeable business circumstances: When the closing or mass layoff is caused by business circumstances that were not reasonably foreseeable at the time that the 60-day notice would have been required (i.e., a business circumstance caused by some sudden, dramatic, and unexpected action or condition beyond the employer's control, such as unexpected cancellation of a major contract); or

Natural disaster: When a plant closing or mass layoff is the direct result of a natural disaster such as a flood, earthquake, drought, storm, tidal wave or the similar effects of nature. In such cases, notice may be given after the event.

Still, since this has been a known situation since May, claiming any of the exemptions would be difficult.... which is why most carriers that anticipated furloughs already sent the WARN notices. Both Spirit & Frontier have since announced no furloughs even though they sent the notices.

must have fallen under the fewer than 50 furloughs. We didnt even have 50 pilots.
how many do swift have now? Could be they plan on furloughing fewer than 50 then.

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mexipilot84 , 09-01-2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NORMALOPS

Whose making an excuse? I said if they haven’t paid out holidays why would the bonus be paid out?

I doubt CARES act money covers bonuses too.

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WhiteMorpheus , 09-01-2020 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucifer

You've left off some important interpretations. They would either need to fall under the "mass layoff" definition or "plant closing" definition (total base closure?) for WARN to apply. A "mass layoff" consists of furloughing 33% of the work force AND more than 50 workers in one location OR more than 500 workers.

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Triggs , 09-01-2020 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mexipilot84

If holiday pay has been canceled for months a bonus is highly unlikely. No point in working holidays.

pretty sure legally, they have to pay that since it is monies owed to us from a previous agreement. Then again, they did freeze all step increases

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mexipilot84 , 09-01-2020 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Triggs

pretty sure legally, they have to pay that since it is monies owed to us from a previous agreement. Then again, they did freeze all step increases

Who knows since we’re not under CBA or under anything kind of MOU how that works. They could go and call it Force Majure. I believe even delta is dealing with that as far as money’s owed to furloughees