Sun Country vs staying at Regional? - Page 4 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

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Your name here , 10-23-2018 07:41 AM

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An interview and a job offer are TWO different things. This isn’t your “RJ” So, when can you start interview.”
Get the job, then think of what’s best for YOU.

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Voltron12 , 10-23-2018 07:22 PM

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I'm in the same position as this guy except second year FO pay at SC is year 8 captain pay at my regional. At some point the money is more important.

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Riverside , 10-24-2018 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Voltron12

I'm in the same position as this guy except second year FO pay at SC is year 8 captain pay at my regional. At some point the money is more important.

Were you at great lakes? Cause 2nd year FO pay at SC should not equal 8 year captain at a regional.

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Viking6 , 10-24-2018 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Riverside

Were you at great lakes? Cause 2nd year FO pay at SC should not equal 8 year captain at a regional.

Probably Mesa, because I think Lakes is gone. Yeah at my current airline you would have to upgrade at SY, and even then it would be year 5 or so.

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Riverside , 10-24-2018 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Viking6

Probably Mesa, because I think Lakes is gone. Yeah at my current airline you would have to upgrade at SY, and even then it would be year 5 or so.

Wow, just looked at Mesa payscale. I thought they passed a TA for more pay.

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Cirrus2turbine , 11-01-2018 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sliceback

Stay. Upgrade. Build up 121 PIC time.
Delaying upgrade doesn’t help your resume. The majors are more interested in you upgrading vs you flying a 737.

Your looking at general gates on your resume to be more competitive. DL had a two year average civilian new hire qualifications of 7600 TT and 4100 PIC(not 121, just PIC). They also said “highly qualified is 1000 hrs TPIC). Other airlines have mentioned 500, or 1000 hrs TPIC, or 121 PIC, in the past.

I’d prepare two resumes, on a forward looking yearly basis, comparing what your resume would look like if you went to Sun Country vs staying at Skywest. And compare them to when you’d get 3,000 TT, 4,000, 5,000, 7600, as well as 500, 1,000 and 2,000 hrs 121 PIC. As well as when might you have an opportunity to be a CKA? I think the answer would be to stay.

Pay? Ridiculous to look at pay. Getting the best resume to get higher at your final job faster is the ultimate goal. A year added at the end of your career for a young guy is worth over $600,000, and perhaps $700,000, in today’s dollars. Let’s say you’re going to get hired at X hrs total time. Going to Sun Country will delay you reaching X hrs by approx. three months. If that’s the difference in getting hired it just cost you $150,000. So there’s a value to not jumping between jobs unless the new job fills an obvious hole in your resume/career advancement.

You’ll have the opportunity to fly the 737, or A320, for years and years at a major. Don’t chase a ‘big’ jet job unless it fills a hole in your resume or you have lots of squares filled but aren’t getting any traction. Then I’d pursue a new opportunity.

Short answer - You’re trading two years of regional Captain for two years of 737 FO experience on your resume. That is not a resume improvement move. Be patient and make steady advancements towards a competitive resume.

Good luck.

That's great advice!! I may DM you for some advice for me!

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BAe3100FO , 11-08-2018 08:22 AM

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I know plenty more folks that went to sun country for the DC-10/737 type and quick upgrade..... AND YET THEY GOT FURLOUGHED SEVERAL TIMES - than I know folks (1) that went there to move on to a “dream job”. So if you’re going to make a move at such a young age, hope you have some savings to fall back on!

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V22Plopter , 11-11-2018 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MNpilot16

If you have any questions shoot me a PM. I was pretty much in the same situation as you . Only difference for me is that I went from commuting to now being based here in MSP. I’d be happy to answer any questions you have.

FYI upgrade is 2 years.

Do you know what the “military waivarable” number is?

Minimums:
1,500 hours total fixed wing pilot time (waiver for military)

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friend , 11-29-2018 09:16 PM

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Will sun pay for ATP

Do u need a atp for sun county
Will they pay for your atp like the regionals are doing. There will come a time very soon that sun country will not be able to find pilots will have to follow the regionals footstep of offering to pay for ATP any thoughts on this

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Starlifter , 11-30-2018 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by friend

Currently, I don’t believe they will pay for an ATP.
With the strong possibility of additional basing in the not so distant future, the commuting options will improve therefore, the candidate hiring pool becomes much wider. Consequently, I don’t believe SCA will need to pay for ATPs anytime soon.