ALPA history regarding illegal sick out. - Page 2

#11

SquawkIdent , 02-10-2019 08:02 AM

Line Holder

Joe, you have a history of questionable headwork on these and other forums, but this might take the cake.

To answer your question, there is no history of ALPA illegal sickouts at UAL. I'm sure that will be the case in the future as well. Our pilot group and MEC are smarter than that.

To suggest otherwise, especially when we are headed into what from all appearances will be a period of contentious Section 6 negotiations, is counterproductive.

And then to doxx yourself? Enjoy being on the receiving end of the company's social media policy or worse.

Please keep your crackpot theories to yourself. Or if you can't, at least limit them to your "can't fail" stock tips.

#12

PilotGR , 02-10-2019 11:10 AM

Banned

why not start with reading Flying the Line?? Im a EWR FO and I agree the younger guys are clueless...even though they grew up with google..seems like they have no interest. all about flying a big shiny jet.

Get them to read both books...its a start.

#13

Octaflugaron , 02-10-2019 10:23 PM

Gets Weekends Off

United Pilots need to be informed about this topic. In fact, ALPA and four United pilots were sued in 2008 and the injunction against ALPA and ALL United pilots was handed down in November of 2008. ALPA appealed in early 2009, but lost that case, too. The appellate court judge couldn't believe that ALPA and the United pilots got off so easy. It quickly affirmed the findings of the lower court. The four pilots lost their jobs but were later reinstated. I believe that the injunction remains in full force and effect.

Read the following carefully if your union, job, career and company matter to you:

https://crewroom.alpa.org/ual/Deskto...cumentID=44168

The truth shall set you free....

Octa

#14

Octaflugaron , 02-10-2019 10:45 PM

Gets Weekends Off

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquawkIdent

there is no history of ALPA illegal sickouts at UAL. Our pilot group and MEC are smarter than that.

You are wrong on both counts, sir. ALPA says so. Read the following carefully:

https://crewroom.alpa.org/ual/Deskto...cumentID=44168

Regards,

- Octa

#15

757Driver , 02-10-2019 10:52 PM

Need More Callouts

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunvox

That's one of my biggest complaints about this forum. The forum should not be anonymous.

I'm Joe Peck, a EWR 320 captain. I have posted my information many times before, and I completely disagree with your analysis as well as that of Mako, who also chooses to remain anonymous.

If what you have to say is true, honest, legal, and not intending to do harm then you have no reason to fear and anonymity is unnecessary.

I want to increase unionism which is on the decline. I believe a discussion of recent battles furthers that agenda. If you disagree then I respect that opinion, but you haven't said anything to change my opinion.

Today's pilots are not well enough educated on the history of how unionism works, or more important the enormous positive impact of unionism, and this forum and other social media can be used in a careful way to get more pilots engaged.

EDIT: And, you are immensely incorrect in saying there are better ways to mentor new pilots as this forum reaches a vastly greater number of people than I can possibly achieve as an individual. Simply look at the views achieved in one hour of this post. Plus you have posts from some of ALPAs more notorious members on this forum who have tried to use THIS forum to launch their agenda. The only difference there being the fact that I am transparent in my agenda: I want to increase unionism which means improved unification of the pilot group. I am open to other ideas on how to do such.

Aren’t you the same DB who wanted us to report earlier than we already do because you can’t seem to get the job done in the allotted time?

Perhaps next you’ll be asking to extend the time we have to stay on the aircraft after blocking in so we can make sure and say goodbye to everyone and fold seatbelts in the back.

#16

Floyd , 02-11-2019 02:24 AM

Gets Weekends Off

This anonymous message board is will only become more agenda driven as the contract silly season deepens.

I'd think again if you believe you're only conversing with pilots.

#17

guppie , 02-11-2019 06:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Octaflugaron

United Pilots need to be informed about this topic. In fact, ALPA and four United pilots were sued in 2008 and the injunction against ALPA and ALL United pilots was handed down in November of 2008. ALPA appealed in early 2009, but lost that case, too. The appellate court judge couldn't believe that ALPA and the United pilots got off so easy. It quickly affirmed the findings of the lower court. The four pilots lost their jobs but were later reinstated. I believe that the injunction remains in full force and effect.

Read the following carefully if your union, job, career and company matter to you:

https://crewroom.alpa.org/ual/Deskto...cumentID=44168

The truth shall set you free....

Octa

Not entirely correct. Only 2 were fired. The other 2 suspended. All still work here, because the whole case was made up BS.

#18

Octaflugaron , 02-11-2019 06:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by guppie

Not entirely correct. Only 2 were fired. The other 2 suspended. All still work here, because the whole case was made up BS.

I stand corrected on the two vs. four. The case was made up BS? Sure. Don't believe ANY of that evidence that the defense did not or could not refute and don't believe your lying eyes. WOW...

You'll make a great LEC or MEC chairman someday.

Good luck.

- Octa

#19

guppie , 02-11-2019 06:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Octaflugaron

I meant against the individuals. They couldn't make the terminations stick. Like I said, they all still work here. Just make sure you pay your union dues every month, Octa. Remember, with agency shop, your job depends on it.

Pay or get fired.

#20

bigfatdaddy , 02-11-2019 07:51 AM

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[QUOTE=757Driver;2761556]Aren’t you the same DB who wanted us to report earlier than we already do because you can’t seem to get the job done in the allotted time.

Careful who you are calling “DB”. From your past posting history you present yourself as a contender for negative (childish) name calling. Take your triggered micro-aggressive behavior to the therapist.