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mainlineAF , 05-06-2020 05:16 AM
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I hope they screen applicants just like you referenced. If your at a “Major” and your app wasn't updated and current prior to February 1st then you should go to the back of the stack. A great interview question: If you were not interested prior to February 1st then why are you now?

“Bc i had a job then?”
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I hated non reving. I swear it ruined the trip for me worrying if the flight would fill up at the last minute.

i generally get enough FF miles from DH’ing to pay for a few round trips a year domestic.
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Cargo doesn't give your family travel benefits, something to consider if you use that. It seams most of my flying at an ACMI is during daylight hours, but changing 6+ time zones, it is irrelevant. Every year around Christmas, I get to experience UPS and Fed Ex domestic flying schedules and I can honestly say I hate all of them. Definently the worst flying I do at my ACMI. Go Fed Ex and UPS for the money, go international ACMI for the better and more interesting flying. I've done pax flying, never again. Never flew for a major, don't care. The pax mission I hate as much as I hate the public, the smurfs, gate agents, non-reving, paying for hotels, flying in a day early, etc. There's always a few good FA's, but the majority of them only serve to add drama to your job.
Pax flying is affected greatly by socio/economic natural/man made conditions. Where I work, when the economy is doing great, so am I. When the crap hits the fan, I do even better. When things go bad for cargo/acmi, pax will soon follow.
It's all a crap shoot, make a decision and get lucky!!

Contractor schedules do not in any way represent the quality and wide variety of schedules available to both ups and fedex pilots. We have our share of tough schedules, but depending on personal preference, we have some pretty darn good ones.
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Cargo doesn't give your family travel benefits, something to consider if you use that. It seams most of my flying at an ACMI is during daylight hours, but changing 6+ time zones, it is irrelevant. Every year around Christmas, I get to experience UPS and Fed Ex domestic flying schedules and I can honestly say I hate all of them. Definently the worst flying I do at my ACMI. Go Fed Ex and UPS for the money, go international ACMI for the better and more interesting flying. I've done pax flying, never again. Never flew for a major, don't care. The pax mission I hate as much as I hate the public, the smurfs, gate agents, non-reving, paying for hotels, flying in a day early, etc. There's always a few good FA's, but the majority of them only serve to add drama to your job.
Pax flying is affected greatly by socio/economic natural/man made conditions. Where I work, when the economy is doing great, so am I. When the crap hits the fan, I do even better. When things go bad for cargo/acmi, pax will soon follow.
It's all a crap shoot, make a decision and get lucky!!
FedEx has ZED tickets. Most FedEx pilots don’t buy them because they have massive amounts of frequent flyer miles from company paid deadheads so we just use them to get positive space tickets. As a guy who use to have “pass privileges” at a major they were worthless to my family. Would never put my family through the wait and see game of standby travel. I make enough to just buy tickets if needed.
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I hope they screen applicants just like you referenced. If your at a “Major” and your app wasn't updated and current prior to February 1st then you should go to the back of the stack. A great interview question: If you were not interested prior to February 1st then why are you now?
Love the sentiment from this former regional D-bag. So, a virus affecting anything the world has ever seen before has decimated your industry and now you want a job with us? No way. How do you look at yourself in the mirror or look at your kids? You are a pilot flying from point a to b. Did a UAL pilot pork your wife or something? A southwest guy make fun of you? Fred must be so proud of you to have you on the team.
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Love the sentiment from this former regional D-bag. So, a virus affecting anything the world has ever seen before has decimated your industry and now you want a job with us? No way. How do you look at yourself in the mirror or look at your kids? You are a pilot flying from point a to b. Did a UAL pilot pork your wife or something? A southwest guy make fun of you? Fred must be so proud of you to have you on the team.
You get turned down by FedEx our UPS? Or are you just ****ed that you won't get preferential hiring at a cargo carrier?
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IMO, as a UPS pilot:

This was a once-a-century event that was exacerbated by the government response to it. Not sure I'd throw away five years at a legacy (that's gotta put you what, 75-80% total seniority?) to start over at the bottom of the UPS or FDX list but there's little downside in applying, interviewing if selected, then making a hard choice if offered a class.

Unlike the early 2000s, the three pax legacies have massive retirements over the next few years which hopefully will help reduce the numbers and length of any furlough.

Caveat emptor, YMMV, etc.
FedEx has 3 1/2 year 757 Captains.
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FedEx has 3 1/2 year 757 Captains.

UPS has sub-5 year Captains as well.

Past results not indicative of future performance, etc...
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FedEx has 3 1/2 year 757 Captains.
Yeah but look at the pairings they fly. No thx !
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FedEx has 3 1/2 year 757 Captains.
Wasn’t there some that held it while still on probation? Or close to that
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