Stealthy

Speed Select,

To directly answer your question...Go with your gut b/c only “you” know you and/or your family’s personal situation during these times.

As for Brown...HR has hired previously furloughed pilots from Majors in the past. So it’s definitely still possible.

The uphill climb is going to be that Brown has been “burned” (for lack of a better word) by the post 9/11 furloughed pilots when after a few years...the recalls started, they quit Brown and returned to the Airline with which they still had a seniority number.

Agin, it’s not going to be impossible to get hired here, however, with the current environment shaping up and the past experiences, things might be difficult for furloughed mainline folks with line numbers.

Having said all that...it’s a proven fact that you will always miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. So if you’d like to join us trash haul’n crowd and it’s calling your name...go for it!

...In the end...with 5 years seniority, hopefully you can ride out this storm and not go through a furlough.

Best of luck!

JonGoodsell764

As others have stated, make the decision based on data and factual information, not a knee jerk reaction to COVID. Jumping ship with 5 years at a legacy because you perceive cargo to be the safer route for job security based on a one off once in a lifetime pandemic isn't a very wise choice.

Noworkallplay

Exactly my thinking. Go look at his post history. He appears to be a very bitter NetJets guy who most likely got turned down by FedEx. What a sorry soul he appears to be. Hopefully he gets help.

pipe

Pass benefits are overrated garbage. If you make career determinations based on them you are crazy. My spouse has them with excellent seniority. My kids have ridden on them twice in 17 years. IMO, the pax pilots should have long ago demanded compensation for their completely eroded pass benefits during contract negotiations. The benefit died through attrition and they got nothing for it. You know what's better than passes? Making enough money to buy a positive space ticket.

Pipe

C17B74

Mmmmmmm, positive space ticket - delicious. Pass on the AssPass. Truly an overblown benefit as overbooking made things sketchy at best. Maybe no more overbooking for awhile (doubtful, the illusion of full flights is based on the constriction of available flights), but as Pipe mentioned not a game changer for decision making purposes by any means.

If any concessions are made at the Pax carriers, then making enough money will be an issue. Hopefully it won’t come to that. Hire at FedEx/UPS and you just buy the ticket and enjoy the ride - No worries.

wrxpilot

The other thing we have is usually pretty high FF status and lots of FF miles. I have enough FF miles from the past year to fly 2 RT business class tickets anywhere in the world on AA/One World.

Definitely beats most of my non-revving days. That said, my non-revving was always as a RJ guy. So I was always very far down on priority. No doubt it's quite a bit better as a mainline employee.

C2078

Pretty sure Fedex is in same boat, UPS applications on file have increased exponentially, heard from multiple sources 30,000+. And this is to hire around 250-300 a year. It would appear you need something special to stand out or someone pulling hard for you inside.

PurpleToolBox

As someone who left a major after four years and transferred to FedEx, my advice would be to apply ASAP but slow your roll. Five years in with your company is a lot of time. Things will return to normal in 1-2 years.

I left the majors because I was allergic to major / passenger airline type of work and crowded airports.

Unless you get the feeling that you're going to be furloughed for several years, I'd stay put.

Humble

5 years is a lot of seniority to give up. There is no guarantee that any company will be here in another 5-10 years. Passenger carriers are suffering now due to public fear and government intervention. What happens if you bail for a cargo carrier that gets pushed out in a traditional way by another company like Amazon? What happens if a disruptive technology like drones makes it cheaper to cut out big airplanes? At the end of the day these are questions only you can answer to make the best decision you can and never look back.

Moosefire

oh there’s a reason it goes that junior.