PSP 2.0; is it gonna happen? - Page 53 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

#521

GeeWizDriver , 10-08-2020 06:06 AM

Speed, Power, Accuracy

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Originally Posted by senecacaptain

as I stated in earlier posts, I am not sure what, if anything, a President can do for private industry during a Continuing Resolution ("CR"). CR's are intended to keep government ops running until the official fiscal year budget is approved by Congress. Most agencies have various directives and edicts that the only permitted things are mission essential/critical ops, and no new operations or activities can be "launched" during a CR. This varies between agency to agency, but that is the general way of doing business under a CR.

He can tweet what he wants, and claim we have money to do it, but he is akin to that rich jet owner telling his buddies lets go to Aspen tonight ! Sure, we can leave now. However upon talking to the pilots, NOTAMS exist and night ops are prohibited at the airport, and, well, no, we really can't go tonight.

my 2 cents

Good Luck to everyone. when the PSP money transfer from Treasury over to the airline's bank account happens, then I will believe it happened.

Bad example Seneca. You can go into Aspen on a private jet at night. Legally. If it's the right jet with the right company. The optical illusions at night are "interesting" but the RNP AR approach is slick. Jusssss sayin.

As to your POINT, I agree.

#522

senecacaptain , 10-08-2020 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver

Bad example Seneca. You can go into Aspen on a private jet at night. Legally. If it's the right jet with the right company. The optical illusions are "interesting" but the RNP AR approach is slick. Jusssss sayin.

As to your POINT, I agree.

bad example maybe, hey I just woke up here.

#523

Seneca Pilot , 10-08-2020 06:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by senecacaptain

as I stated in earlier posts, I am not sure what, if anything, a President can do for private industry during a Continuing Resolution ("CR"). CR's are intended to keep government ops running until the official fiscal year budget is approved by Congress. Most agencies have various directives and edicts that the only permitted things are mission essential/critical ops, and no new operations or activities can be "launched" during a CR. This varies between agency to agency, but that is the general way of doing business under a CR.

He can tweet what he wants, and claim we have money to do it, but he is akin to that rich jet owner telling his buddies lets go to Aspen tonight ! Sure, we can leave now. However upon talking to the pilots, NOTAMS exist and night ops are prohibited at the airport, and, well, no, we really can't go tonight.

my 2 cents

Good Luck to everyone. when the PSP money transfer from Treasury over to the airline's bank account happens, then I will believe it happened.

It was a pretty clear tweet to me with no translation needed. There is unused money in the cares 1 bucket that I want to use for PSP and airline support but I need the house (the Democrats since they are in the majority) to pass some legislation for it to be used for those purposes and I will sign it immediately.

Fairly straight forward request that the House has chosen to ignore.

#524

GeeWizDriver , 10-08-2020 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by senecacaptain

bad example maybe, hey i just woke up here.

must. Have. Coffee.

Lol

#525

pangolin , 10-08-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by wrxpilot

What about it is wrong? All seems correct to me.

I want all of my airline friends to keep their jobs, but I’m not going to bury my head in the sand about the financial reality of what’s happening. I don’t know what the answer is.

“Additional subsidies unlikely to help workers”. That’s flat out wrong.

#526

Islandman , 10-08-2020 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pangolin

“Additional subsidies unlikely to help workers”. That’s flat out wrong.

It won’t help them in the long run or for long term job security if it dramatically delays the recovery. Continual demand for financial support and welfare just means the airlines are surviving on subsidies and not correcting or right-sizing for the future. Another $100 in your pocket now might seem beneficial but if you kill any long term competitiveness and survival you have killed the Golden Goose.

#527

pangolin , 10-08-2020 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Islandman

Right now it matters.

#528

Islandman , 10-08-2020 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pangolin

Right now it matters.

Again....... Very shortsighted and not in the long term benefit of your employment or companies long term interests nor the taxpayers.

#529

KSUto64 , 10-09-2020 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Islandman

Again....... Very shortsighted and not in the long term benefit of your employment or companies long term interests nor the taxpayers.

That’s one opinion on the matter. The other is that 6 more months might just get the airlines to a point where recovery is far enough along to prevent future furloughs and be poised to capitalize on the increased travel. At this point both are opinions and anything beyond is a guess. But no one knows for a fact what will happen. Unless of course they can see the future in which case where was said person last winter.

#530

xms3200 , 10-09-2020 05:10 AM

MAX N1, NO DERATE

I seriously don’t think that come spring 2021, traffic is going to increase by a significant amount to eliminate the need for furloughs.
The airlines have furloughed for long term survival, keeping on thinking that travel is going to surge next year is “fantasy”. Everyone is holding their breath on the vaccine, when it comes out, people will start questioning its effectivity as well as long term side effects.... and we will be back to anemic traffic growth.