Well it seems to be a large ego around here, the main reason for the forum wasn’t to impressed anyone with an immature personality or thinking, it doesn’t matter how large you think it’s or how much “you said you earned”
At the end of the day, we haul freight!
“Try to be better than yesterday”

Happy to say the interview went well and I will be joining the January class. Looking forward to starting training and to seeing you all on the line soon.

Congrats Luke! See you on the line.

If he is making 400k a year and has control of his schedule why would he leave? You think he is the only older Airline Captain out there who is bitter? Perhaps an explanation is due. Note: Riverside these remarks are not intended for you if they don’t apply, you name just happens to be on the quote.

The thing I think most of the younger First Officers and very unfortunately, now some Captains in the industry, don’t realize is that the airline environment used to be such, that a pilot who “paid their dues” with experience and professionalism, was rewarded pay, benefits, and just as important, status and prestige. Other than the pay, all that is gone.

Now pilots call themselves “drivers” and have little pride in their status, or appearance. They spend an inordinate amount of time trying to act as though the job is easy but then they don’t really want to do the job right, always seeking a shortcut. Do a good walk around? Check that the freight is secure? Be trusted by the Captain enough that said Captain is comfortable going into the back for a 3 hour nap on a long flight? Is this you?

The rules generally don’t apply to them. They have lost the skills they once had because of this attitude. They don’t turn the autopilot off at 10,000 in a low work environment not because they are cool, but because they are scared that their crew mates would know that they have lost their ability to hand fly an airliner. They are truly the Children of the magenta line. One of the root problems is that they have never taken the time to learn why or how the “magenta line” appears, and are constantly behind the aircraft even when “managing”. Boeing’s VNAV is a stupid design and it doesn’t work! The MD80 altitude capture is just a broken design and shouldn’t be certified. Never mind that these systems worked for years before they came along. Does the Air France 330 or Colgan Q400 crash where pilots watch their aircraft kill everyone because they did not understand the technology, ring a bell? Don’t even get me started on electronic devices and the constant need to have to play music or video games while in flight. That Captains were told to include a reminder to turn off and stay off of devices during sterile amazed me at the end of my career.

Before you come back with the remarks I can predict you will, please do yourself a favor. Ask yourself, do you exhibit any of these traits? If you do you are part of the problem. You are the reason for crap working conditions. You are the reason people think pilots are stupid bus drivers. You are the reason that the general public thinks they know more than you and your crew does. You are the reason why Flight Attendants get punched out in flight by passengers who think you are an idiot. The ills of today’s airline working environment are a direct result of you. You have no respect for yourself or your profession so why should anyone else have any respect for you.

If the above description is not you. Congratulations, you are part of the solution. Continue to lead by example. I can promise you two things will happen. One, others will follow and Two, you will be a much happier person at work and at life.

Do you think ABX will ever get hats?

That's sort of an off-the-wall question. But no. Why would we do that?

That's a plus. How's the potty look?
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Hello everyone, I have just joined APC forum and looking for some help from ABX pilot's. I have interview with ABX on 13th December in Dallas, what do I expect in interview and also if someone can give an insight of what salary structure is there in place at ABX and what do we expect during training.

It's pretty standard as airline interviews go - expect a log book review, a "why do you want to work here?" question, and some TMAATs ("Tell Me About A Time...when you had to deal with some issue that has never come up in your short aviation career." Yes, I hate those questions.) If they like you there, you'll be invited for a simulator evaluation. It might be the 767 simulator, but I've heard of them using an Airbus simulator as well. It depends on what's available at the time. When I did it five years ago, they gave you 30 minutes in a room to memorize DC-8 procedures and then wanted you to go recite those while flying the DC-8 simulator with no automation. The focus now seems to be on determining whether or not you'll be able to function in a crew environment, although the usual steep turns and holding entry are still part of the evaluation, so basic instrument skills and knowledge are a necessity.


First year pay is a shade over $68,000, and there will be opportunities for more if you want it, maybe even if you don't. Second year will be $102,000. Per diem is $53 per day tax-free any day you leave domicile (CVG).


Company indoc and 767 ground will be in Wilmington (Ohio). Simulator will be in Wilmington, Dallas, or Denver. You get hotel and per diem while in training.


The company and instructors will give you every opportunity to succeed. Please make an effort. We're hiring like mad, but we're not desperate. We still have standards.