Agreed. It will be gone on the next contract unless all FO's vote NO.. ALPA doesn't care, they agreed to get rid of it on the last contract and luckily so many FO"s voted no, it didn't pass(TA1)

This is exactly it. Devalue an item to lessen DALPA leverage and to eventually, maybe increase productivity with 23K. Even if you are required to ride along for the entire trip, management loses a seat on every flight and that pilot will not fly a revenue leg. If released there is a real chance they pick up at least some flying. Foot shooting is the new sport.

I would bet a beer the CS stance is due to the supervisor "E". Although she is married to a pilot, this woman absolutely disdains us. I've went to the CPO about her and she's a known entity beyond the power of the CPO to really do much about. She is unprofessional, angry, and will do anything she can to make lives of pilots as difficult as possible. Hopefully enough pilots will complain about her and much like the grumpy ATL controller who no longer works in ATC, "E" will someday be a distant memory in the lives of the Delta pilot group.

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This really isn't that new. I had to do this a few times back in 2015. I'd guess it has more to do with the fact that we don't require a backup flight anymore. I don't like it, but it kinda makes sense to me.

I’ve noticed quite a few very senior FO’s have bid Captain since being released is no longer a sure thing. Not to mention most LCA not being able to bid and hold international trips from PBS. (Since very few international trips exist.) Destroys the entire “bid with a LCA, get bought off the trip, get a GS” strategy. But on a bright note: those new Captains are now getting green slips as Captains.

🤷‍♂️ I was released last week at 5pm for the next day. It’s in their benefit to do this. I picked up a trip they needed covered.

TA 1 contained a provision that allowed the company to withhold 75% of the anticipate OE flying from the PBS award process and assign it to check airman. There was no requirement to sit recovery. TA 2 modified this to a far less onerous ability for the company to pull rotations from open time but only after PBS awards.

Some of my happiest forum days are when I get to post that Sailing is right. There was no recovery obligation for OE trip removal in TA1.

This^^^

Last time I was dropped for an OE happened on the jetway walking down to the plane. Had I been released earlier I absolutely would’ve picked something up on a night when they were out of pilots.

Always 2 sides to a story but I have to believe if some grownups could get into a room together, a common sense fix to this could be found. It’s silly to make the FO report unless absolutely necessary. You just pumpkin’d him/her for a minimum of 10 hours.

stand corrected. This also would have sucked. Recovery was pre C2012 I believe.