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#11

JBGuard , 05-20-2021 01:09 PM

New Hire

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Originally Posted by WacoQCF

The COO said today that they do not expect to fly the international market until 1st or 2nd quarter of 2022.

Given than, 69 pilots+ are waiting with no aircraft qualification or training plan (at all) are still sitting at home waiting on training - estimated to happen 3rd quarter.

There is a major ruffle in the senior fleet of 717’s now being assigned to 2 day red eyes; and then the incoming 787 in mid 2022 that will cause some demand for new hiring as well as the further backlog of training events caused my shifting seniority preferences and/or seat locks.

In other news the COO stated that the 717 is expected to be in the fleet well past 2025.

Pilot hiring is not likely to come until late 2022 at the earliest.

Waco, copy. I appreciate the insight.

#12

Smooth at FL450 , 05-21-2021 05:30 AM

weekends off? Nope...

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Originally Posted by Hawaii808

he is mistaken, they are two day pairings with required rest on an outerisland. I think a lot of the 717 guys would prefer the continuous duty overnights though. The pairings are terrible.

I see. Do most of the 717 guys live on Oahu? Are there commutable pairings from the other islands?

#13

Donuthole , 05-21-2021 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450

I see. Do most of the 717 guys live on Oahu? Are there commutable pairings from the other islands?

majority live on Oahu but it does have a few commuters. Know there’s a handful that come over from OGG same day.

#14

rickair7777 , 05-21-2021 08:00 AM

Prime Minister/Moderator

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Originally Posted by flysnoopy76

I’m not sure one person’s post on a hypothetical merger counts as a big rumor, besides that one individuals post is the only place I’ve ever heard of it, chances are probably slim and none in reality.

Yeah, this rumor pops up like clockwork every couple years... it's apparently appealing because both airlines are among the oldest and both named for non-conus states.

Although if AS was smart it wouldn't be a horrible idea to solidify their HI business with what's obviously the best brand recognition for that. The flip side is they'd probably have to dip their toes in international to justify the purchase price, and they're risk averse. They'd also have to keep the HAL brand, at least for international and some mainland-HI ops, and that might rub the SEA-centric culture wrong. But never say never.

#15

RJSAviator76 , 05-23-2021 03:24 AM

Gets Weekend Reserve

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawaii808

he is mistaken, they are two day pairings with required rest on an outerisland. I think a lot of the 717 guys would prefer the continuous duty overnights though. The pairings are terrible.

Talk about a hit on one's QOL given that all interisland flying used to be turns. What percentage of 717 flying has gone to outer island overnights??

#16

Hawaii808 , 05-23-2021 09:09 AM

Gets Weekends Off

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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76

Talk about a hit on one's QOL given that all interisland flying used to be turns. What percentage of 717 flying has gone to outer island overnights??

I think around 60%

#17

RJSAviator76 , 05-23-2021 10:06 AM

Gets Weekend Reserve

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Originally Posted by Hawaii808

I think around 60%

That’s horrible. Talk about a hit to your QOL.

#18

av8tor55 , 05-23-2021 10:34 AM

Gets Weekends Off

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Originally Posted by Hawaii808

I think around 60%

Not quite that high, the range looks to be about 42-53% of the pairings. But still a significant change. Off the top of my head, I can think of commuters from LIH, OGG, and ITO. The change may work out in their favor.

#19

Cholla6918 , 06-16-2021 09:20 PM

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The latest news at Hawaiian:
1) We have gone full swing from fear of furlough to upgrading 30 Captains on the 330.
2) We have 30 new hire vacancies that need to be filled.
3) Those previously were hired into the pool who were dismissed, recently received letters stating they are still hired and should expect a class in the next several months.
4) 787 time frame has been moved up with the initial cadre going to training in Feb/Mar of 2022.
5) 717 sim is currently being installed in the training center completing the facility.
6) The atmosphere at Koapaka (HQ) is very positive and they appear to be prepping for growth.

It’s very refreshing to see all of the industry recovering so rapidly. 🍻

#20

TransWorld , 06-17-2021 12:02 PM

Gets Everyday Off

Life seems to be pretty good throughout the industry, domestic at least. Oh, what a difference a vaccine makes!