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Originally Posted by Stan446
But the post, "Its time to Wake up" is ok?
No, it’s not. My comment you quoted was from 10/10 and the thread that you are referring to started 11/05 and I have commented on it telling people to knock it off. I want the best contract possible and arguing or discussing pay, retirement, work rules, and work actions in a very public forum is not smart.
You don’t know who I am and I don’t know who you are, and we don’t know who is a management troll trying to stir the pot. We don’t know anyones motivation on here so discussing what we want in a contract is not helpful to active negotiations.
On the other thread that you mentioned I said the following and was ignored. The same people that are always stirring the pot on here just kept arguing.
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Originally Posted by WearyEyed
This thread is a little scary. It can be used as evidence by management that we are not negotiating in good faith. Yes, we should be a unified group and stand up for what we have earned, but discussing in any forum, especially a public forum, to change the behavior of the pilot group during negotiations is not smart.
I have been at airlines where management used posts by pilots not only for personal punitive action but also to threaten to sue the union as a whole for illegal work action.
When we individually choose not to pick up draft or Ava it does send a mess to management but posting about doing it weakens our position. And as someone mentioned about Atlas, if each pilot simply makes the decision on their own to change their behavior and not pickup extra flying during negotiations even that can be viewed by a judge as not negotiating in good faith as we are expected to maintain the status quo during negotiations. That’s not to say that I agree with people bending over backwards for the company, but we are expected to continue doing so if we have been doing it prior to negotiations.
I really want to know what the NC is pushing for on our behalf but I also think any public discussion of negotiations or work actions weakens our position. I hate to say it because I too am worried about the A plan and scope, but we all need to shut up in these forums and let the NC do it’s job. If you want your voice heard then get involved, show up at the rally today, email or call your reps, and VOTE.
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