USMCFDX

Fixed it for you.

Tuck

Curious Tony - what's the argument for a pay raise beyond step (year) and column (position)? I mean why should say a 2nd year pilot today have more spending money than a 2nd year pilot in 2014? Believe me I want as much as we can get but I am curious as to the argument. You don't see that in the military, teachers, police, even lawyers. I think if you are working more because of efficiencies in line building then you should get paid more - that's more of a work rule or MPDP type of thing but what's the argument quite plainly as to why a 2nd year pilot in 2021 should make more than a 2nd year pilot in 2015 in real wages at the same company? I'm not too interested in tying it to corporate performance as that can be easily manipulated and has in fact, in recent times, gone down.

of course our pay has gone up when measured against actual inflation and not some made up 3%/year number.

I'm asking you because you typically have very well thought out answers and I'm honestly curious. Thx

PurpleToolBox

Simply put, as a pilot group we are much more efficient, profitable and safer in our day to day duties.
-We've adopted less than all engine taxi operations (not allowed in 1999)
-We've adopted Flag Ops and *rarely* add fuel compared 1999
-We're better trained and safer than 1999
-We're much more efficient in the terms of utilizing VNAV and optimizing descent profiles than in 1999
-We're healthier
-We've adopted technology, sometimes designing it ourselves (BidX/FXcal) or iPad Vector, which make us much more efficient, contactable and knowledgeable
-We have much more evidence to suggest that working swing/night shifts kills you slowly than we did in 1999
-AND OUR A-FUND COSTS THE COMPANY 33% LESS PER YEAR PER RETIRED PILOT THAN IT DID IN 1999!

Noworkallplay

The United States average Inflation rate over the past 20 years was about 2% annually. Not justifying 3% pay raises but over the past 20 years an annual pay rate increase of 3% would equate to an almost 20% spending power increase.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...ation-rate-cpi

PurpleToolBox

Thanks for down playing our leverage ... management pilot.

Noworkallplay

Did you read my post at all? Do you think I was posting factual information to discredit false claims made in posts above?

Noworkallplay

Calm down flat top you are going to give yourself a heart attack. Now hit the mess hall and report back at 0630. You are released.