Is UPS Cargo much better QOL than PAx?

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Quote: Short overnights, (especially before 117) delays going into hubs, multiple legs, constant plane swaps, walking miles in the terminal, dealing with gate agents, pax, and FA.
Don’t forget the crowds, lines and KCM as of late… Doors, uniforms and this latest generation of pax. Did I mention the crowds. Good for the flesh mover side which is great no doubt, but it was one thing I will truly miss = our own airport worldwide. Initially quite eerie, but it didn’t take long to enjoy some benefits. The little things add up to exhaustion as well. Herding cats. Some folks enjoy crowds and traffic thankfully.

*Must admit I am not privy to actual heavily optimized schedules of UPS/Pax carriers. I can only hope not to be enlightened.
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The unfortunate reality is that although delta is on top now, the odds are within the next 5-10 yrs the economy will fall into recession and those guys will end up with a broken contract and most likely furloughs ( all passenger outfits), it doesn’t tend to happen that way with freight. The bottom line is that passenger airlines are just too unstable.
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Quote: The unfortunate reality is that although delta is on top now, the odds are within the next 5-10 yrs the economy will fall into recession and those guys will end up with a broken contract and most likely furloughs ( all passenger outfits), it doesn’t tend to happen that way with freight. The bottom line is that passenger airlines are just too unstable.
As investment companies always make very clear, past performance is not indicative of future results. No one can guarantee future results.
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Quote: The unfortunate reality is that although delta is on top now, the odds are within the next 5-10 yrs the economy will fall into recession and those guys will end up with a broken contract and most likely furloughs ( all passenger outfits), it doesn’t tend to happen that way with freight. The bottom line is that passenger airlines are just too unstable.
True, it’s all cyclical no matter what as past performance has proven in all industries. Up and downs will always exist. Airlines hire until they don’t. 1st Qtr is normally tough.

1st Qtr = “Delta posted a net loss of $363 million, or 57 cents per share, citing, in part, a new, four-year pilot contract that includes 34% raises.”

2nd QTR should be better or not as bad perhaps. Keep those loads going and that’s the bottom line; otherwise, well who knows. Attaboy if the economy will support it.
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Quote: You will never be able to strike. No President will allow it. .01% chance Teamsters will strike. Ask Allegiant and the railroad how it worked out.
“0.01%” chance that the Teamsters will strike? What do you know that the Teamsters and UPS Labor don’t know. I hope you and others with that mindset in the IPA are saving some money for this summer in case your “1 chance in 10,000” is off by many factors of 1000.
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Quote: “0.01%” chance that the Teamsters will strike? What do you know that the Teamsters and UPS Labor don’t know. I hope you and others with that mindset in the IPA are saving some money for this summer in case your “1 chance in 10,000” is off by many factors of 1000.
Even if there is a strike, not even the doomsday folks are predicting it will last very long. ******* happens in life, divorce, health issues, family problems, etc. But if a person with this job cannot go a month without income due to overspending, that is on them.
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Quote: You will never be able to strike. No President will allow it. .01% chance Teamsters will strike. Ask Allegiant and the railroad how it worked out.
RLA, NLRA...all just letters apparently. You should learn the difference between the two and which one applies to the Teamsters.
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Quote: RLA, NLRA...all just letters apparently. You should learn the difference between the two and which one applies to the Teamsters.
Fair point and I absolutely know the difference. However, I stand by my prediction. How much of the GDP does UPS move daily?
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Quote: Fair point and I absolutely know the difference. However, I stand by my prediction. How much of the GDP does UPS move daily?
You keep sounding “smarter” by the post.“That's good news as UPS is a proxy for both domestic and global economies, carrying an estimated 2% of the world's gross domestic product and 6% of the US GDP each day.”

From a cargo news publication. If you think 6% of GDP is insignificant, well, can’t help you there.
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Quote: Fair point and I absolutely know the difference. However, I stand by my prediction. How much of the GDP does UPS move daily?
Less than the rail system, but enough to constitute a punch to the economy’s gut. There is no current legal way for the president to stop the Teamsters from striking. Obviously, Congress could change that, but I doubt it will. Guaranteed there will be some arm twisting behind closed doors, but this will probably come down to how hardball management is willing to play to protect profit margins. There are a lot of issues beyond simple pay rates that in play for them.
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