alohacessna

The one time charge was planned and does not make the quarter a loss. Profit sharing will be paid on the $217M ish adjusted pre-tax profit that was booked. Also $1.2B in debt paid down with $1.9B in free cash flow. 2Q will be excellent and this year has the chance to match 2019's record profits and profit sharing.

tnkrdrvr

Happy to hear that you guys are able to use your profit sharing calculator to cut through the accounting chicanery. However, probably the most explicit difference between pax hauling and box hauling is playing out over at FedEx right now. Even though they booked solid profits (by pax standards) last quarter they have paused hiring, are executing a corporate restructuring, and pilots are talking about bailing for greener pastures as management drags out contract negotiations. The freight business model consistently makes money, but regards shrinking profits the same way the pax haulers regard bankruptcy. This moderates the boom/bust cycle but makes it harder to lock in contractual improvements.

Night_Hawk

All still easier than night sort flying.

Well, IMO

C17B74

Can’t say which is worse as I have stayed clear from both most of my career, but totally agree I fear the sort as well. Both stink hands down no fun to be had.

C2078

Night sort flying getting in Hotel bed by say 6:30am is not bad at all. You end up working 10-11 days a month, most if not all weekends off, fairly easy. It becomes harder when you start playing with the circadian issue, or start arriving Hotel at 8-9am, that is simply brutal.

But agree not for everyone.

FTv3

Yep, 1 in and 1 outs (of the sort each night) with a 2-3hr sleep and commercial tickets on both ends of the pairing aren’t bad & easy AF. Delays wiping out the sleep opportunity and putting you into the hotel super late (past 8am) and reschedules to multiple legs are the gotchas. Biggest issue is that there are no ways to catch-up if you get a bad day of sleep.

I’m one of the ‘not for everyone,’ crowd. I hate these -> just can’t sleep more than 4-5 hrs once I get to the hotel. So, I take an early evening nap for 2hrs at best, then an hour or 2 at the sort if lucky (plenty of times I’ve laid there tired AF yet wide awake…🤷‍♂️). But by the end of the week I’m pretty wiped out. My days off are then consumed by catching up and getting back into some sort of sleep routine, finally feeling rested a couple of days before I have to go back to work. Result = chronically tired with no relief.

I’ve flown ones that start and end mid week so you get the weekend off (on a long layover). They were excellent for rest/fatigue mitigation but you lose the commercial tickets. I don’t think these are common on any fleet unfortunately.

Also note, night sort flying is commuter friendly so the lines don’t go junior.

Id take the day pax flying without a second thought. Would hate it but better than being a walking zombie flying night sort.