Is UPS Cargo much better QOL than PAx?
04-14-2023, 10:09 PM
#111
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Originally Posted by Riverside
Short overnights, (especially before 117) delays going into hubs, multiple legs, constant plane swaps, walking miles in the terminal, dealing with gate agents, pax, and FA.
*Must admit I am not privy to actual heavily optimized schedules of UPS/Pax carriers. I can only hope not to be enlightened.
04-15-2023, 02:58 PM
#112
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The unfortunate reality is that although delta is on top now, the odds are within the next 5-10 yrs the economy will fall into recession and those guys will end up with a broken contract and most likely furloughs ( all passenger outfits), it doesn’t tend to happen that way with freight. The bottom line is that passenger airlines are just too unstable.
04-15-2023, 06:54 PM
#113
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Originally Posted by Busman
The unfortunate reality is that although delta is on top now, the odds are within the next 5-10 yrs the economy will fall into recession and those guys will end up with a broken contract and most likely furloughs ( all passenger outfits), it doesn’t tend to happen that way with freight. The bottom line is that passenger airlines are just too unstable.
04-15-2023, 10:59 PM
#114
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Originally Posted by Busman
The unfortunate reality is that although delta is on top now, the odds are within the next 5-10 yrs the economy will fall into recession and those guys will end up with a broken contract and most likely furloughs ( all passenger outfits), it doesn’t tend to happen that way with freight. The bottom line is that passenger airlines are just too unstable.
1st Qtr = “Delta posted a net loss of $363 million, or 57 cents per share, citing, in part, a new, four-year pilot contract that includes 34% raises.”
2nd QTR should be better or not as bad perhaps. Keep those loads going and that’s the bottom line; otherwise, well who knows. Attaboy if the economy will support it.
04-16-2023, 07:40 PM
#115
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Originally Posted by McBoeingBus
You will never be able to strike. No President will allow it. .01% chance Teamsters will strike. Ask Allegiant and the railroad how it worked out.
04-17-2023, 05:41 AM
#116
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Originally Posted by 6010C
“0.01%” chance that the Teamsters will strike? What do you know that the Teamsters and UPS Labor don’t know. I hope you and others with that mindset in the IPA are saving some money for this summer in case your “1 chance in 10,000” is off by many factors of 1000.
04-17-2023, 11:36 AM
#117
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Originally Posted by McBoeingBus
You will never be able to strike. No President will allow it. .01% chance Teamsters will strike. Ask Allegiant and the railroad how it worked out.
04-17-2023, 02:19 PM
#118
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
RLA, NLRA...all just letters apparently. You should learn the difference between the two and which one applies to the Teamsters.
04-17-2023, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by McBoeingBus
Fair point and I absolutely know the difference. However, I stand by my prediction. How much of the GDP does UPS move daily?
From a cargo news publication. If you think 6% of GDP is insignificant, well, can’t help you there.
04-17-2023, 02:39 PM
#120
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Originally Posted by McBoeingBus
Fair point and I absolutely know the difference. However, I stand by my prediction. How much of the GDP does UPS move daily?
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