Effect on Regionals, DAL/NWA Merger - Page 6 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

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mccube5 , 04-14-2008 06:31 PM

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i have an uneasy feeling this is the beginning of the 100 seat jet being flown by regional pilots at regional wages (for now at least). prob time to step up and do something about it! anyone have any ideas?

#52

BlueMoon , 04-14-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HercDriver130

Well....with the 135's and -200 that are slated to go away...and the 175's coming and on order.... we will be more than 50% 70 seat aircraft by this time next year. Even now its probably 55/45 percent or close to it.

Those are to replace the E170's that are flown for DL...then those 170's will get placed with United or something like that.

We had a CHQ FO on the jumpseat into CVG and he said there were rumors about the CVG base closing, not sure how true that is.

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HercDriver130 , 04-14-2008 10:04 PM

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Not sure what your point is Bluemoon those aircraft will still all be in the RAH stable even IF they are moved over to United as planned. Bottom line is over the next year we are still taking delievry of 175's and it will be a next increase of 13 aircraft by this time next year to 239. And at that point there will be more 70+ seat aircraft on property than 50's or fewer.

#54

ConnectionPilot , 04-14-2008 10:15 PM

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#55

matlok , 04-15-2008 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Airsupport

yeah. pinnacle is going no where, unless us pilots get the chance to strike. we are right now the only regional with brand spanken new contracts with both delta/nwa/continental. and i know some out there will say that the contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on. but these contracts are less than a year old, and were written while merger talks were beginning. plus i don't think uncle phil would be dumb enough to sign a contract that could be backed out of when we are paying for the 900's ourselves (if so i think the sec might have some jail time set up for him). same with those dang q400's. the 200 will continue to be used in several markets that dont need a mainline plane or even a 900. the 50 seater is only losing money on certain flights. not all. which is obvious since pinnacle has tons of money in the bank and we operate a mostly 200 fleet.

to be honest the people who have to be worried are the ones that are wholly owned by delta or northwest. they will be the first ones to be shed. now i am not saying they will close the doors but they will be sold. to whom and for how much i don't know. and what will happen to their flying, who knows. but delta has made it obvious they don't want to be in the regional owning business. they sold asa. there have been reports that they are looking for someone to buy comair. we all know mesaba and compass will be sold because thats what nwa does anyway. the sales will give the new company tons of cash on hand to take care of their business.

hmph.

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ConnectionPilot , 04-15-2008 12:35 AM

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I'm just interested to know why you don't think Pinnacle will be in trouble with this merger, but you think everyone else will be.

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HercDriver130 , 04-15-2008 03:07 AM

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its called arrogance.....all who fly for them are at risk to some extent. To think otherwise is folly. Some perhaps more than others.....

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BlueMoon , 04-15-2008 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by HercDriver130

My point is that they are not growth aircraft for Delta Connection.

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HercDriver130 , 04-15-2008 05:31 AM

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no... true...at least that was the original plan..... the question was concerning ratios of 50 to 70+ seat aircraft..... PLUS the 170's coming out of DAL livery are slated for the UAL operation.

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mooney , 04-15-2008 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Flatspin

How or why would a regional airline pilot know the answer to this?

Don't worry, we have plenty of know it alls on here that will not only know the answer to this question, but also they already know how the DAL-NWA seniority list will be merged, and the exact day of armageddon.