While you're at it, how about see how all the pilots who were at non union carriers whose management promised not to ever furlough or had an "understanding" how they feel?

Furlough protection clauses in contracts or management promises and understandings are not worth the paper they are printed on. If you are just basing your thumbs up or down on unions on that one very narrow focus, then you are sadly uninformed.

Besides, the best union in the world can never overcome a management team who is flushing the company down the drain through stupidity.

1.To make a promise not to furlough is misguided on any companies part and unless said company has a real good crystal ball to foretell the future then it is best not to put such clauses in any contract.

2. No I am not basing a thumbs up or down on any union and if my post was perceived that way then I do apologize as we have good and bad in any union.
3.As far as management is concerned some of these carriers schould have stuck with ppl who know about the biz and not someone who decides to race the carrier to the bottom as we have now.

Marty, Since your such an expert on when JetBlue will furlough this fall could you update me, as it is already SEP and so far I haven't heard anything. Don't want to be caught off guard. Appreciate it.

How those pay raises doing?

what did you get, what did you lose....

any other perks change ?

Well Marty you really called this one didn't you? Keep your expert comments coming, we will all be holding our breath. The sky is falling, the sky is falling.

Fall starts Sept. 22nd!!!!
Just joshing. Hope no one gets furloughed any more.

Nice job on the newhire pay!!! The first year is disgusting and the second year makes me wanna throw up. And yet I'm sure there will be hundreds lined up at the door for the open house.

Greedy, not at all. Apparently years of abuse and low pay have destroyed our self asteam. Once again the workers are grateful that the managers have left a few scraps on the table for us to fight over.