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Quote: I sent an email yesterday... Response was
They have not given us the official start dates yet for the classes for September and going forward.

So based on what you are saying the whole 10 a week in September isn't happening?
The vacancy that was posted today was for pilots hitting the line in october. The new hires that are included in that vacancy are already on property since it takes about 3 months from the start of home study till you can be considered eligible to bid for that month.

The september class date in the vacancy was for an UPGRADE class, not new hires.

The vacancies for increased new hires will follow, probably later on in august or early september, right around when you will start anyway.

I realize its hard to wait, and there are many of us who had to wait over a year like alaskabound said. The plan is being finalized, and believe me, if its anything like last year (and it will be) once they know, the floodgates will open and the pool will empty practically overnight.

10/week is going to happen, I would expect to hear something in the next 2-3 weeks once they finalize the training plan and sim schedule for the next 12-16 months.
Quote: The vacancy that was posted today was for pilots hitting the line in october. The new hires that are included in that vacancy are already on property since it takes about 3 months from the start of home study till you can be considered eligible to bid for that month.

The vacancies for increased new hires will follow, probably later on in august or early september, right around when you will start anyway.

I realize its hard to wait, and there are many of us who had to wait over a year like alaskabound said. The plan is being finalized, and believe me, if its anything like last year (and it will be) once they know, the floodgates will open and the pool will empty practically overnight.

10/week is going to happen, I would expect to hear something in the next 2-3 weeks once they finalize the training plan and sim schedule for the next 12-16 months.
Yeah I'm just trying to figure out when my class will be so I can turn down other offers.....thanks for the in depth post...makes more sense now
Quote: Just posted a Sept class date for 8 new hires. Not sure which date in Sept but the vacancy is out.
Be careful about what information you put out there. Although the vacancy indicates 8 new hire positions, they're most definitely for people already on property and people that will be done with IOE by September.

There is also nothing in the alignment about a new hire class date. In fact new hire class dates aren't sent to the entire pilot group in any mass communication format. The training center may or may not give you an update when you're in the school house for recurrent, but to say that realignment or vacancy bids have any new hire class dates is flat out wrong. In fact even trying to predict class dates based on position bids is flat out wrong because nobody bids until they've actually been hired, so please try and keep the information accurate.

It's frustrating enough to be treading water. Getting wrong information just makes it worse, but fortunately things are moving and good things will come to those that wait.
Quote: Be careful about what information you put out there. Although the vacancy indicates 8 new hire positions, they're most definitely for people already on property and people that will be done with IOE by September.

There is also nothing in the alignment about a new hire class date. In fact new hire class dates aren't sent to the entire pilot group in any mass communication format. The training center may or may not give you an update when you're in the school house for recurrent, but to say that realignment or vacancy bids have any new hire class dates is flat out wrong. In fact even trying to predict class dates based on position bids is flat out wrong because nobody bids until they've actually been hired, so please try and keep the information accurate.

It's frustrating enough to be treading water. Getting wrong information just makes it worse, but fortunately things are moving and good things will come to those that wait.
whoa there buddy. I got your point the first time you said it. I stand corrected and spoke too soon. If I ruined anyone's day (the 10 people who read this thread on a regular basis) I apologize.
How does transportation to training work. Remember reading something about having to find your own way to MN. But can't find it.
Quote: How does transportation to training work. Remember reading something about having to find your own way to MN. But can't find it.
For first day orientation, you buy a ticket. But don't buy a return ticket because you'll have delta travel privs by the end of that day and probably your ID badge too, so you can jumpseat home and list standby to all future training events. You are also responsible for your hotel and getting to/from the schoolhouse during the remainder of training.
Quote: For first day orientation, you buy a ticket. But don't buy a return ticket because you'll have delta travel privs by the end of that day and probably your ID badge too, so you can jumpseat home and list standby to all future training events. You are also responsible for your hotel and getting to/from the schoolhouse during the remainder of training.
I thought you had to buy your way to and from orientation and you didn't get travel benefits until you showed for class after the 30 day home study?
Quote: I thought you had to buy your way to and from orientation and you didn't get travel benefits until you showed for class after the 30 day home study?
Nope, travel benefits day 1, and as long as you aren't listed in CASS with another airline, jumpseat privilidges too.
Quote: Nope, travel benefits day 1, and as long as you aren't listed in CASS with another airline, jumpseat privilidges too.
Okay..so then its seniority that doesnt start til indoc after home study?
Quote: Okay..so then its seniority that doesnt start til indoc after home study?
No

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