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Quote: Salty,
The week-long gap in some Hot lines (3 weeks of Hot and one week off) is historically placed in VTO lines, or if unable, in OT.
Regards,
Roberto
Historically, yes. Historically, we used to have more hots.<g>
Sat Hot for better part of 10 years and used to track all the fleets out of curiosity and scheduling practices. They have learned to tighten it up and are more comfortable with less line pilots as they managed the supervisor flying closer.
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Quote: I just count things and leave the good or bad up to the reader...

I haven't been looking at ANC other than reading in the forums that there is a problem with the reserve times not in complete sync with the needs, thus some JA attempts (or posts stating that some reserve crews accept the non-contractual times). That would fall in the category of "flights that do not fit the contractual reserve call-out time or maximum duty time."

If expect UPS is keeping good records of the reasons for MEF, but those are not available to me. I did qualify my post with "a lot, probably most" but that is just a guess across all fleets.

Not exactly ... nearly all of the ANC flying syncs perfectly with all RSV shifts.

What you read about is the fact that they run out of RSVA crews and then call a RSVB or RSVC crew and offer them an early release so that they can be legal for an early assignment the next day. An assignment that is perfectly legal for a RSVA and has been in open time for days. They are simply running out of reserves in the proper shifts, not flights that are outside of reserve windows.

In the first week of 10-02 I was one of 2 FOs available on RSVA. We both got called in on the same trip. UPS went for 3-4 days without any RSVA coverage.

How can they do this comfortably ? The management airline answers all calls at all times. It is the ONLY reason they can even consider a furlough in ANC, at least on the B747. I won't pretend to know what is up on the MD in ANC ...
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CC- Thanks for the clarification.
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Quote: Historically, yes. Historically, we used to have more hots.<g>
Salty,
I think one of the last times I was on Hot it was with you in SDF <g>. Besides the DC8, there was an A300 and a 757. Now there are 2 757's, an A300, and an MD11. Has there been a reduction in out-station Hots to make up for the additional one in SDF?
Regards,
Roberto
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So, if one of these "management" guys shows up to operate and they've had an extremely long duty day. Do we "have" to fly with them when we feel they are not safe? Look at what TG and MM did on the MD just recently.

Didn't some of these tools take guys off flights in ANC recently for commuting into a flight, yet they are doing the very crap they felt was unacceptable?


Can't have it both ways now can you? I know I dont want to operate with ANYONE that runs that type of schedule. Seems REALLY UNSAFE!!

Try this I guess!
How to File a Whistleblower Complaint
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I'm not so sure the Taft-Hartley (NRLA) or Right-to-work laws (amendment to NLRA) really have any impact on us since we're under the Railway Labor Act. These (NLRA & RLA) are two completely different sets of labor laws. Apples & oranges, if I remember correctly.
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Quote: So, if one of these "management" guys shows up to operate and they've had an extremely long duty day. Do we "have" to fly with them when we feel they are not safe? Look at what TG and MM did on the MD just recently.

Didn't some of these tools take guys off flights in ANC recently for commuting into a flight, yet they are doing the very crap they felt was unacceptable?

Can't have it both ways now can you? I know I dont want to operate with ANYONE that runs that type of schedule. Seems REALLY UNSAFE!!

Try this I guess!
How to File a Whistleblower Complaint


That makes for an interesting contradiction ...
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Quote: Didn't some of these tools take guys off flights in ANC recently for commuting into a flight, yet they are doing the very crap they felt was unacceptable?
I was one of those people that got a talking to from MM. He couldn't have been more unprofessional to me. I have his itinerary printed off from the Flight Ops site. I welcome another "discussion" from him.

FYI, I wasn't removed from the flight and nor are they doing that with anyone. It is the CA who will remove you if it comes to that.
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Quote: I was one of those people that got a talking to from MM. He couldn't have been more unprofessional to me. I have his itinerary printed off from the Flight Ops site. I welcome another "discussion" from him.

FYI, I wasn't removed from the flight and nor are they doing that with anyone. It is the CA who will remove you if it comes to that.
Perhaps it needs to "come to that" for some of these manglers..
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I used to think MM was an OK guy. The last few months have shown what a POS this guy really is. A sad day if he ever gets into the IPA.
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