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#51

SoCalGuy , 05-03-2010 07:11 AM

Keep Calm Chive ON

Quote:

Originally Posted by gettinbumped

First: It aint (and shouldn't) going to be DOH, and DOH would be great for me.

Second: I don't care WHAT color you paint it, just show me the money.

Three: Scope is #1 to me, and I think most of us.

Four: See #3.

Five: So long Tilton. Don't let the door hit you in the a$$.

NOT SO FAST......

He's like the "HERP".......

He's going to stick around for AT LEAST 2 more years......maybe more to ride the economic up-swing to further pad his bank of "Rape/Pillage" before making his 'get away'.

"GOOD TIMES" GLENN.....stoked.

#52

nwa757 , 05-03-2010 07:24 AM

Gets Weekends Off

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheapFlyer

Something tells me that the combined MEC's will try even harder to reclaim lost scope and assure E190s or CRJ900's go to mainline.

I sure hope so. CAL scope is a major ALPA advantage and I hope they use that capital to keep scope at mainline so the furloughed UAL guys can come back.

I see this as the single most important issue for the pilot groups going forward. Good luck all and keep the importance of scope at the front of the bargaining table.

#53

AirTrucker , 05-03-2010 08:06 AM

Gets Weekends Off

The local news just said the CLE will be a hub and have 65 mainline flights....I donk think that sounds like much of a hub. I could be wrong...

#54

tsquare , 05-03-2010 08:53 AM

No longer cares

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Nelson

Come on. Look how ugly the SWA paint job is. Would you not give your left nut to fly for them?

I wouldn't give YOUR left nut to fly for them

#55

tsquare , 05-03-2010 08:54 AM

No longer cares

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sink r8

Bethune on CNBC says this is "Check mate" in the airline industry, yet it appears he has concerns about the execution.

I saw that too... what do you s'pose he meant by that?

#56

fit29 , 05-03-2010 09:31 AM

Gets Weekends Off

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riddler

Something tells me that CAL will try even harder to park all its 737-500s and replace them with E190s or CRJ900s.

There is no problem in replacing the 735s with E190s or CRJ1000s, just that they should be operated by mainline. Pure and simple.

It seems to me that most airlines are waking up and realizing it is better to operate larger mainline aircraft 1 or 2 times a day to a small destination than 10 CRJs, and after the whole Republic/Midwest/Frontier fiasco airlines are waking up and realizing they are funding their own enemies by creating these mega regionals; and that in the future we will see a reduction in regional flying and an increase in mainline in the years to come, but I agree that the new combined MEC should fight for at least keeping COs scope.

#57

StrikeTime , 05-03-2010 09:39 AM

Gets Weekends Off

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Bligh

Just for discussion, is scope as important now? I actually think that the much larger fleet size may make scope less of an issue. What does everyone think?

With all due respect, this was the same mentality 15 years ago. Now over 50% of the flights in the United States are conducted by the regionals.

Secure the scope now while you can.

#58

Daniel Larusso , 05-03-2010 12:11 PM

Gets Weekends Off

I wonder how much capacity will come out of the system simply as a result of configuring CO's aircraft with UA's economy plus product? Looking at the seating charts for the 737-800 and A320, it looks like CO has 155 seats in their 737-800's while UA has either 138 or 144 in their A320's depending on configuration. That's an 8-11% reduction in capacity on those aircraft. It's not a cure all, but it can't hurt when it comes to preserving jobs in a merger.

#59

SoCalGuy , 05-03-2010 12:22 PM

Keep Calm Chive ON

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikeTime

With all due respect, this was the same mentality 15 years ago. Now over 50% of the flights in the United States are conducted by the regionals.

Secure the scope now while you can.

Agreed.

This is the Tipping Point right now.....IF it's NOT held here, I seriously doubt that things will change 'for the better' on this topic in the near/remote future.

One Voice/One CBA.....asap.

#60

aviatorhi , 05-03-2010 12:57 PM

Banned

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Nelson

Come on. Look how ugly the SWA paint job is. Would you not give your left nut to fly for them?

No I wouldn't give any part of my body to fly anywhere on the mainland...

Seriously though, it's not the colors, it's seeing the CAL logo next to the United Name... it's just, it doesn't go together, at all.

So just wondering (since nobody mentioned) any idea on what happens to Air Mike now? United Micronesia? Or "so-long" to GUM?