What about the Supplimental guys that can carry on an endless duty day as long as there's an FE. Very disappointing but I'm not suprised.

"It was tough to implement it on cargo because of the cost-benefit to this," LaHood said. RIGHT! It is tough when the hugely profitable cargo carriers offer hundreds of millions in lobby money to your boss to exempt Cargo carriers...that operate widebody aircraft from the same airports/space. The pax and cargo carriers spend many times more in a quarter on lobbying than the annual costs Mr. LaHood mentions as a result from this rule change. This bull is sprayed dispite the companies having to report massive Qtly expenditures on their lawyer lobby.
He with the most money wins...their should be some big bonuses handed out for this win.

The Tenerife airport disaster occurred on March 27, 1977, when two Boeing 747 passenger aircraft collided on the runway of Los Rodeos Airport (now known as Tenerife North Airport) on the Spanish island of Tenerife, one of the Canary Islands. With a total of 583 fatalities, the crash is the deadliest accident in aviation history.

How about "taxi into" vice land on.

*repeat from similar thread. Apologies to those reading it twice.

The only alternative now is NOT to fly tired ............... Fatigue calls or Sick calls, your choice. I will not fly tired or roll the dice with it ............... The rest of you guys and gals out there know what I am talking about. Do the right thing. These aircraft will not fly without pilots ........... No pilots, no flights. Simple as that ................

I hate talking politics on this board, but give me a break!!!! The White House is almost totally responsible for this. Who do you think has been lobbied the hardest the past few months?? Congress ain't one of them. In the end though, money won the fight, and the millions that UPS spent alone, proved too much to overcome.

The other interesting cutout was passenger troop movements. Another fact supporting that Obama does not give a ******* about troops. Anything he does is for political gain. This NPRM basically declares our troops as second class citizens, not worthy of the same safety standard as the rest of the public.

The only alternative NOW...?!?!?

How is the status quo today different than it was yesterday, or last month, or last year? Calling in fatigued or sick has ALWAYS been our only option... one used by far too few.

Please explain exactly how the WH is "almost totally responsible" for this.

a complete understanding of the situation.

I hate to break it to you, but everything any politician does is for political gain, your guy/gal included.

This is another example of why we should have been negotiating a real contract, essentially creating our own rest rules rather than going after 3/6% and hoping for a gov't glove save. There is no such thing as perpetual growth when it comes to our hourly rates. At some point we have to take a stand and fix QOL before it's too late.