As required by 60.M.1.a.(1) of the ALPA Administrative Manual, the president's compensation (as well as the compensation of every other national officer) is published on the ALPA web site, and is shown month-by-month so you can see it in detail.

As for Captain Moak specifically, his monthly salary is $25,000. So, in other words, the LM-2 report is misleading, and by quite a bit. It overstates the president's salary by just under $100,000. That is what happens when anti-labor lawmakers get ahold of labor regulations and force unions to report misleading data to turn members against them.

As you can see from above, I didn't ask about ALPA resolutions. I asked about what the LM-2 shows. You know, the LM-2 form that ALPA has to fill out and give to the government like all unions must do in order to comply with regulations on accuracy.

Once again you show you're better at dopey insults than you are at answering uncomfortable questions. So I'll do it for you in the next post.

Carl

As I've said, the LM-2 is irrelevant. It is designed by the government to be intentionally misleading. Things that aren't actually salary are included under salary.

Then that's what would have been inserted in the LM-2 form to the government.

Year 2011:
Lee Moak:
$398,846 Gross Salary
$336,273 Reimbursements for official business
$105,289 Other Reimbursements
$540,408 Total

Year 2010:
John Prater:
$328,277 Gross Salary
$170,550 Reimbursements for official business
$000,000 Other Reimbursements
$503,234 Total

It does no such thing. The LM-2 is a government form that was demanded of labor for the purpose of accurately tracking union boss pay. The form has to be filled out by the UNION under a large penalty for anything falsely stated.

You just sound childish. These regulations were put in place to try and make otherwise unaccountable union bosses accountable. Just admit you're wrong and move on. Don't make it worse by stating that the evidence is wrong.

Carl

Like what.

Carl

I'm neither an accountant nor an attorney, so which specifics items, I'm not sure. I just know that the numbers include things other than actual salary. It may be housing allowance, or company car, or supplemental per diem, or some other things. Not sure which things they are required to include under base salary, and which things can go under expenses and other compensation. It's just not something that I've ever dug that deep into, because I know what he gets paid, and it isn't $400k.

If you'd like all of the details, then you can always call the Finance Department or Vice President-Finance Captain Helling, and they will be more than happy to answer your questions, I'm sure.

I am sure. His Gross Salary (what must be put on his IRS Form 1040) is $398,846. It represents a large bump in salary.

No, that's covered under $36,273 for Official Business and $105,289 for reimbursements Other than official business. Whatever is listed as Gross Salary is the same as you or I would have to put down for Gross Salary under IRS rules.

Carl

Carl, you're just wrong. It's that simple. But if you'd ever like some real data, you can always call Herndon.

You say Carl is wrong,but cannot give examples.You say you know the numbers include things other than salary,but in you following statements say it may be this or it may be that.Then you say you are not sure what is required to be included in base salary,but you know that Carl is wrong.Looks like a typical ALPA smoke screen.

Are you also too lazy to call Herndon and get the real answers? Or maybe you're both just too scared that you won't like the answers, and you'll find that the DPA really is the band of liars and con-men that most of us have pegged them for from the beginning.