Yes, pretty much.

Yeah, just threw an app in, but I only just crossed 3000TT this week. Any chance? Worth making a trip to a job fair?

Thanks.

For anyone who's bringing something to the table other than 4000+ hours of RJ time, going to a job fair and presenting your situation personally is FAR AND AWAY the best option.

That being said, you could spend all the time and $ to get there, wait in line for hours, and be told 'Thanks, please come back when you have 4k'.

Good luck!

Or.....you can work your tail off and get an interview with a Legacy carrier that has no silly restriction. I believe Spirit and Virgin America guys have some rediculous min hour requirement. My guess is that will be short lived because most guys will leave those two companies for better paying/more stable legacy companies. Just my two cents...

Agreed. It's an arbitrary number. I know a lot of 20 year single seat mil guys with fewer than 4,000 hours. It should not be about quantity but quality. I'd rather take a guy with 3,000 hours of turbine PIC in a challenging environment than 6,000 of SIC.

Absolutely agree with your example. I am a Military guy. When I left AD I had around 4300 hours with tons of hours being shot at over Afghanistan and Iraq. I consider myself extremely lucky to have gotten hired by a Legacy carrier but the interview team was clear when they explained what and who they were working for. IMHO companies like Spirit and VA can drag in guys with crazy hour requirements but Legacy carriers would rather bring in qualified guys who you can actually live with over a four or five day trip.

I agree that the 4000 TT number is not only silly, but it makes it appear Spirit doesn't consider many of our military pilots qualified to apply here. I think its more to dissuade low time civilian applicants from submitting resumes and spending time lining up at job fairs for a job they're likely not competitive for. We've got thousands of resumes on file, and continue to seek new applicants.

Is it harder to keep your incredible quality or your extreme livability in check on a day to day basis?

I do taste the sarcasm. I don't mean to be smug. DAL does a terrific job hiring the "perfect" fit. I can only think of one Captain that was a bit of a character. I really enjoy the pilots I fly with. Some are worth the price of admission. Additionally, I can’t say I have ever once had an issue with another pilot's method of flying a jet. DAL has a history of this type of culture. That said, DAL doesn’t advertise ridiculous hour requirements nor do they rely on job fairs to weed out low time kids. They have computers to do that.

Not exactly on topic but purely out of curiosity, is it just the fighter guys who tend to not accumulate a ton of hours or does that affect the transport guys as well?

I'd always assumed your C-130/C-17 etc... drivers flew a metric ton of hours every year, even with the whole only logging actual time the thing was in the air thing.

Do you guys think those high mins will drop once Delta, AA/US, and UAL begin to really crank up hiring?