Your explanation of filling the 900's and 200's is right on.

But, it doesn't matter "whose" airframes go away. We are all one big stinking pile now.

DOH has nothing to do with anything in this heaping steaming pile. Never did.

Nobody deserves anything.

No no, you're correct, this is what was to come. Not my point. And sorry you were the number 8 post.

It was more to show that we are in a perpetual fight with each other and the companies love it. The union failed us a couple years back. I was there and saw it first hand. (And spoke out against it. (showing my hand a bit)) They would not listen to a different view, only national. IMO. But here we are, still blaming (maybe not you) the other "former" groups. This was a leadership issue and always will be until the angry 10% take a stand.

The sheep will always flock.

The whole mess is going to go down in history of one of the most painful acquisition, merger, bankruptcy, realignments of recent memory. The indications were obvious given the way our CBA, seniority integration and realignment were shotgunned at us. As the saying goes, "the road to ruin is paved with good intentions". If anyone has learned anything going forward, I hope that in the future, pilots realize the need for professional negotiators and people that have an understanding of accounting and finance.

"The express pilots have failed to manage their union. Not a single MEC Chairman called for an Executive Board to stop ratification, not a single MEC Chair called for an Executive Board Meeting to review the President's actions. Not a single Status Rep brought forward a resolution to direct their MEC. Not a single pilot brought forward any resolutions on the matter at the LEC ... and no one has been recalled.

In contrast, the express MEC Chairman gathered to sign a letter of mutual support stating they are not going to do what just happened at Pinnacle and then was repeated at PSA.

I've pointed to the tools in the Admin Manual which exist to prevent these bargaining failures. The response from some of your smartest express guys has been to complain that they will not waste their time taking action. OK ... well at least get on the record as having been right, recall your Reps if they are truly "bought."

There is nothing I can do to help you if you will not help yourselves. Your Reps, officially, signed a letter affirming ALPA's bargaining just a few weeks ago. They have spoken for you.

So, in the absence of any demonstrated interest in managing your union, we might as well learn every thing we can from President Moak's strategy and get on board. President Moak is wagering that if your MECs can survive this current economic downturn that the market for pilots will drive a correction as the supply dries up. His plan to fix the longevity problem is a system of flow throughs.

There are rumors of mainline being forced to insource express flying as economics and pilot supply collide. That may be where this is going, but, I am not yet that optimistic. For starters express MECs (who can't even raise an objection to Pinnacle bargaining) raise all unholy hell when mainline groups talk staples (although a double staple, or giving express pilots mainline numbers they can use to bid into a position when they desire seems to work)

In summation, my web board rants are useless if not a single person at an express carrier will pick up and use the tools I have outlined. The Pinnacle contract is in the history books now. Might as well be pragmatic and look forward for new opportunities. "
Thought it may be prudent to repost this from Bucking Bar.

No surprise again. It stated on or before 5pm CDT on the wed 24th. still not posted

*25th.....

....was somebody "day drinking" a day early?

So much anticipation to anger.... We should have a reality series, it would be quite a hit.

Call it "end up". Based on real life career expectations!

Yea I just looked and I am a day early. Damn four days. It is Sat to me. I am glad I am on the same week.

Just so it's clear... I'm only trying to lighten the mood as I have a feeling tomorrow night will see many rocks thrown around the glass houses.

Yes, should be interesting. Especially if shy and flyer chime in