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10-02-2013 | 12:29 PM
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If he comes back with new intel on how his award works now, I would almost think that we should be able to re-bid based on the new information.
10-02-2013 | 12:44 PM
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Frankly, Bloch should milk it as much and as long as he can. Hopefully a harsh lesson learned for the 9E union "leaders."
10-02-2013 | 02:51 PM
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Do you blame him? I still remember before this process started as part of the process and protocol agreement all 3 pilot group union leaders decided to use only one arbitrator - Bloch. Every legacy airline has used several for SLI purposes (Delta/NWA, United/CAL). But these guys thought they were smart and would stick with just one.
Frankly, Bloch should milk it as much and as long as he can. Hopefully a harsh lesson learned for the 9E union "leaders."
Frankly, Bloch should milk it as much and as long as he can. Hopefully a harsh lesson learned for the 9E union "leaders."
Right now ALPA is fighting the Emirates thing to protect Delta pilots, but I'm sure if ALPA could represent the Emirates pilots, that fight would disappear so fast your head would spin. Just wait till ALPA gets the ability to represent foreign nationals with the ab-intio and cabotage programs. We pilots will be lucky to get jobs at McDonald's after that happens. Let's just hope they pay $15 an hour by then.
10-03-2013 | 08:12 PM
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From: MSP CA
Bloch's ruling
Fellow Pilots,
Arbitrator Bloch has ruled that the DRC had the jurisdiction to provide the Dec 2012 interpretation of the Conditions and Restrictions contained within the Bloch Award. Realignment 13-02 was processed utilizing the Dec 2012 interpretation, and we have asked the Company to publish 13-02 now that Arbitrator Bloch has ruled.
As Pinnacle was below 541 CRJ-200 CA postions, no premerger Pinnacle pilot was displaced from the CRJ-200 CA position by a Mesaba or Colgan pilot. Mesaba pilots could displace to the CRJ-200 CA position provided there was a junior premerger Mesaba or Colgan pilot to displace in the CRJ-200 CA position. Colgan pilots could displace to CRJ-200 CA position provided there was a junior Colgan pilot to displace in the CRJ-200 CA position. Colgan could also displace to the CRJ-200 CA position provided a junior Mesaba pilot was in the CRJ-200 position and such a displacement would not cause Mesaba to maintain less than 100 CRJ-200 CA positions.
The Endeavor Air DRC
Arbitrator Bloch has ruled that the DRC had the jurisdiction to provide the Dec 2012 interpretation of the Conditions and Restrictions contained within the Bloch Award. Realignment 13-02 was processed utilizing the Dec 2012 interpretation, and we have asked the Company to publish 13-02 now that Arbitrator Bloch has ruled.
As Pinnacle was below 541 CRJ-200 CA postions, no premerger Pinnacle pilot was displaced from the CRJ-200 CA position by a Mesaba or Colgan pilot. Mesaba pilots could displace to the CRJ-200 CA position provided there was a junior premerger Mesaba or Colgan pilot to displace in the CRJ-200 CA position. Colgan pilots could displace to CRJ-200 CA position provided there was a junior Colgan pilot to displace in the CRJ-200 CA position. Colgan could also displace to the CRJ-200 CA position provided a junior Mesaba pilot was in the CRJ-200 position and such a displacement would not cause Mesaba to maintain less than 100 CRJ-200 CA positions.
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10-04-2013 | 07:56 AM
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It's not the union leaders, it's the conflict of interest in ALPA rearing its ugly head. What should have happened is the 9E MEC should have sued the Colgan group, and tied the SLI up in court for years over the 2007 scope violation. If that had happened, the Colgan pilots would be choosing between a staple job or nothing. That did not happen because of the ALPA merger policy.
Right now ALPA is fighting the Emirates thing to protect Delta pilots, but I'm sure if ALPA could represent the Emirates pilots, that fight would disappear so fast your head would spin. Just wait till ALPA gets the ability to represent foreign nationals with the ab-intio and cabotage programs. We pilots will be lucky to get jobs at McDonald's after that happens. Let's just hope they pay $15 an hour by then.
Right now ALPA is fighting the Emirates thing to protect Delta pilots, but I'm sure if ALPA could represent the Emirates pilots, that fight would disappear so fast your head would spin. Just wait till ALPA gets the ability to represent foreign nationals with the ab-intio and cabotage programs. We pilots will be lucky to get jobs at McDonald's after that happens. Let's just hope they pay $15 an hour by then.
You are a tool. That is all.
10-04-2013 | 09:04 AM
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Fellow Pilots,
Arbitrator Bloch has ruled that the DRC had the jurisdiction to provide the Dec 2012 interpretation of the Conditions and Restrictions contained within the Bloch Award. Realignment 13-02 was processed utilizing the Dec 2012 interpretation, and we have asked the Company to publish 13-02 now that Arbitrator Bloch has ruled.
As Pinnacle was below 541 CRJ-200 CA postions, no premerger Pinnacle pilot was displaced from the CRJ-200 CA position by a Mesaba or Colgan pilot. Mesaba pilots could displace to the CRJ-200 CA position provided there was a junior premerger Mesaba or Colgan pilot to displace in the CRJ-200 CA position. Colgan pilots could displace to CRJ-200 CA position provided there was a junior Colgan pilot to displace in the CRJ-200 CA position. Colgan could also displace to the CRJ-200 CA position provided a junior Mesaba pilot was in the CRJ-200 position and such a displacement would not cause Mesaba to maintain less than 100 CRJ-200 CA positions.
The Endeavor Air DRC
Arbitrator Bloch has ruled that the DRC had the jurisdiction to provide the Dec 2012 interpretation of the Conditions and Restrictions contained within the Bloch Award. Realignment 13-02 was processed utilizing the Dec 2012 interpretation, and we have asked the Company to publish 13-02 now that Arbitrator Bloch has ruled.
As Pinnacle was below 541 CRJ-200 CA postions, no premerger Pinnacle pilot was displaced from the CRJ-200 CA position by a Mesaba or Colgan pilot. Mesaba pilots could displace to the CRJ-200 CA position provided there was a junior premerger Mesaba or Colgan pilot to displace in the CRJ-200 CA position. Colgan pilots could displace to CRJ-200 CA position provided there was a junior Colgan pilot to displace in the CRJ-200 CA position. Colgan could also displace to the CRJ-200 CA position provided a junior Mesaba pilot was in the CRJ-200 position and such a displacement would not cause Mesaba to maintain less than 100 CRJ-200 CA positions.
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