If you knew "anything" about the airline industry you would know how too look that up all by yourself.

I "know" more about the airline industry than you do, I'm just too lazy to look it up on a flight tracker. I know ABX used to fly a 767 on that route.

Yeah, you woke up the troll!

Nothing terribly new to report. 4 757Fs in CVG, dubious future. Although I find it hard to believe there aren't at least 4 runs that is 'right-sized' for a 757, the question is, who will operate them in time? 4 757Cs with 3 operating and one spare. 4 767Fs, all -200s, only one ETOPS. One of them has been engine-less in ILN for nearly a year, the other 3 have sporadic or short-term contracts. Both -300s and one -200 have been removed from our Ops Specs and dry leased. All of them were ETOPS. Big loss for us on the long-range charters we had been doing. This company is apparently no longer interested in the unique things we are allowed to do and have done quite lucratively for decades.

We have Cat II in the 757s now (been full Cat IIIFO in the 767s for a few years). Was never a big deal for the combis as very few places we go with them even have lower than Cat I approaches, but it's of great importance to the 757Fs, particularly for the west coast run. So that's at least a plus in our quivver.

The only real thing we have that we are currently doing and which no one else can do right now is the combi work. National tried to horn in on that business, had trouble getting it launched, and we wound up with their jets. That's the only reason we are even in business right now. We rushed parking our DC-8s, basically kicked them to the curb, before the 757C's were ready, and only got through it thanks to the tireless efforts of our crews and mechanics.

Our current management has brought zero new business. What has come our way has been funneled off to ABX in the end. The only time we are similar in cost to ABX is when operating out of CVG, mostly because of our home basing. But from the sound of things, that funneling won't last long either, if ABXs 13 remaining DHL-dedicated aircraft are dry leased and not operated by ABX. Then, any economies of scale are lost as an advantage to ABX when compared with us.

737s - who knows?

Currently in contract negotiations. Somehow, I have this feeling that it's a delayer, a-la Astar.

Every single ABX pilot that came on board is now furloughed by ATI as well. Great bunch of guys, and they are missed on the line.

This whole thing may some day be worth a few college credits. In fact, it should be.

Really? What do you know about me?

Whale, he likes to make assumptions, he was doing the same to me yesterday. I think it's safe to say, he's a troll and prob best to just ignore this idiot. Yesterday, he was trying to make an argument that furloughed ABX pilots should have rights to come over to Atlas and take Captain seats from us. You'll never get anywhere with this idiot.

8 - All true. Its raining and I am bored at the moment.

Any updates on the ATI situation? Hopefully good news?

Not really. Losing airframes to dry leases. Last Co. call mgt proclaimed that the 757 is now the base aircraft, but there is no business for 757's, So why are we giving our 767's away you ask???? Nobody knows. Mgt is going through negotiating theatrics. Wanting immediate Section 6 meeting only to walk out. I thought there was NLRA rules on that sort of thing.

All I know is that, I am the proud owner of another useless furlough number.

Hope all is well on your end DVRV.


FAJ