Can someone who works at Piedmont or who knows if there is any truth about a flow through at American?
1. Do you get a number?
2. Is there a time limit?
3. Is this provided in writing?
4. When will it or has it been signed?
5. % of new American pilots who will be from Piedmont?
6. Is Piedmont getting jets and how many?
7. How soon will they be online?
8. Any other pertinent information?
9. What happened to the Envoy/Eagle people who had a flow through number?

There are caveats to almost all your questions, but here is the short version.

If there is no number how is there a flow through? I guess they can stop calling people up at any time?

You get a number when you flow. What you are thinking of would be Piedmont or Envoy pilots having AA seniority numbers before flowing. That is not how it works.

You flow, and then become a first year AA pilot on pay step one. Prior to that you are either an Envoy or Piedmont pilot. Whomever is hired at AA prior to you flowing is senior to you when you eventually do flow.

As mentioned, Piedmont gets 3 and PSA I believe gets 4 a month. And in both of those cases I believe they are only guaranteed an interview. It's not really an actual flow.

Envoy does have an actual flow with no interview. Right now it's 20 a month. Rumor is that the latest contract offer from AA that should drop any day now will have an enhanced flow. The contract which was rejected earlier this year would have enhanced our flow from 20 to the first 30 new hires at AA. I expect any future "enhanced flow" offer to be similar.

Minor correction : no interview at pdt.

Can someone who works at Piedmont or who knows if there is any truth about a flow through at American?
1. Do you get a number? - You get a number when you start training at AA. You do not accrue AA seniority until you actually begin working there.
2. Is there a time limit? - The agreement is in place for 10 years.
3. Is this provided in writing? - Yes.
4. When will it or has it been signed? - The first 3 flows are leaving the first week of November to start at AA. The next 3 are in the first week of December.
5. % of new American pilots who will be from Piedmont? - 3 per month that AA hires pilots. Unlike PSA, Piedmont has a full flow-through. There is NO interview, NO medical test (other than FAA medical certificate.) When it is your turn, you get a class date at AA and show up for day 1 of training, no questions asked. If you fail initial training at AA, you return to your spot on the PDT seniority list.
6. Is Piedmont getting jets and how many? - This has not been announced yet. PDT is working with a consulting company to "bring regional jets to the Piedmont certificate." What type/how many we may or may not be getting has not been announced. All communications from the company so far indicate that we are getting something, but beyond that there are no details. Take that with a grain of salt.
7. How soon will they be online? - See above.
8. Any other pertinent information?
9. What happened to the Envoy/Eagle people who had a flow through number? - I don't know anything about Eagle and their flow, but I do know that they have a flow as well.

I hope you guys finally get a contract offer you deserve. Hopefully it includes enough flow to slow PDT and PSA from taking anymore gains off of your backs. If karma exists, maybe your flow will increase slowing the flow from those other wholly- owneds leaving most of those guys stuck with their capped contracts for longer waiting on the flow carrot they sold their souls for.


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Hilarious coming from a RAH pilot. Tell us about Midwest again? Exactly. Bye.

^^^ good info.

Really. That's all you have. You are as clueless as you are spineless. I really find it hard to believe you can be that stupid, but I have been wrong before. Arrivederci principessa


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