35 CA vacancies, with now downgrades. This is the first pure vacancy notice in a long while. Endeavor has turned the corner new hires are showing up and now you will upgrade time drop like a rock. If you get hired today within 2 years you should have the opportunity.

Reasons for saying this

People leaving for Delta and other majors will continue to create movement.

First officers with CJO's at Delta will soon start moving there as early as next year and some will skip the upgrade now that the money part is there and they will enjoy the quality of life as a senior first officer before moving on to Delta.

The major airlines will start to look more closely at regional first officers again increasing attrition.

The company will be bring CRJ 200 back out of the desert in the fall to begin growing with the idea of being about 150 airplanes strong.

For those looking at which regional to go too consider Endeavor. Best money in the industry as well as the much needed upgrade to captain is coming.

I agree with everything your saying here, it does seem like this place has turned around for the better and things are looking up. I'm just curious why you're such a cheerleader for Endeavor? It's not a bad thing, but you have always seemed to drink the koolaid in large doses.

Drunk on kool-aid. It's amazing what a little cash will do. The extra cashflow will suddenly cease in 3.5 years or whenever Delta sees fit. Crazy how so many guys there are suddenly cheerleaders. Don't forget, Endeavor is STILL a wholly owned of Delta and that's never been a good thing.
Good to hear about the upgrades though...that is positive. I just think you guys are too quick to pain such a rosy picture.

I hope you meant 150 airplanes total and not 150 200s. We never had that many to begin with and the current delta contract was supposed to bring them down system wide to 125. Other than that I like your optimism

I wholeheartedly agree Endeavor is a great option for someone new to the 121 world, but i definitely would not take advice from this guy. Not sure his motives but some of the things he has posted make little (if any) sense and he contradicts himself often in a poor attempt to recruit for Endeavor. This post, being my favorite -

If you get hired at a company as a street captain and a guy in your upgrade class has been there 4 years. Is upgrade 4 years or 0. My point was that upgrade time as a new hire needs to be measure by how long it will take for them to upgrade historical upgrade times are not a useful metric.

I'll believe that when they are on the ramp.

News flash:

Every regional is going to see the upgrade drop like a rock soon.


At the current rate, as of the next few months, Horizon's upgrade time will have gone from 13 years down to just over 3. No real growth, the fleet has increased by 1 or maybe 2 in that span.

When all of the majors are hiring, it doesn't take long to see the upgrade plummet, regardless of which regional you're at or what is going on.


People would be smart t go to the company that's based where they want to be, and has a decent contract.

i would be more concerned of not hitting anything if i were you. your upgrade is just one step from a faa violation. if you have no idea of what i am talking about then you really should not be concerned about upgrade time.

Newton explained this phenomenon in his 3rd law of motion.

The more they hate, the more he loves!