Endeavor Has Started Upgrades
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Of those 35upgrades, how many are 7+yr FOs that were downgraded??? A new hire won't see the left seat for a long time.
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How is it easier. It's a contract now free of loopholes. And my point wasn't about the ease of the task, just that that base wages are not safe either. Look at Eagle/Envoy/PSA for example. Companies seem to always find a formula that works to get what they want. As far as my Skywest comment: I stand by that. Delta isn't stupid, and they're doing this for a reason. If you want to believe it's because the want to take it back later, it really shows a lack of maturity and knowledge of the aviation industry on your part. Btw, thanks for the laugh
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You might want to educate yourself on the 20k per year for four years before you come across as totally ignorant.
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It's easier to disregard a promise of a bonus than it is to put an airline into bankruptcy. It's also easier to disregard an LOA that says they'll give you a bonus than put the airline into bankruptcy. Cheaper too. So if management was serious they would have offered base wage increases.
It's hardly Skywests fault Delta didn't offer you base wage increases. Your argument is almost comical. It's not always someone else's fault.
It's hardly Skywests fault Delta didn't offer you base wage increases. Your argument is almost comical. It's not always someone else's fault.
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The bonuses are paid out of Delta's cash pile, thus they do not increase the bottom line, and have an effect on the stock price.
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The answer is, as airline management (Delta because 9E only has management to check the corporate blocks) knows, 9E only needs an intermediate fix to staff airplanes NOW. This is why they are throwing cash at us. A base rate has too many long-term implications that 9E simply isn't worth investing in. A base increase permanently changes the expense report at Delta. In time, they will readjust to the needs of the time. You and Alaskabound should get a room.
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Worded that wrong, I meant that it can be stopped for new hires at anytime, it's not something that has to continue till next contract negotiation like a increase to base would.
#29
Not sure they would do that. It seems like their biggest marketing piece. It's likely what is driving their 25+ new hires per class. You don't need fleet growth when you have guaranteed interviews at the rate they do. I saw a piece on one of the 9E social media pages talking about 730 or so pilots moving to Delta by 2018? That seems pretty aggressive. Did anyone else see that? Post it if you did, or I'll try to find it.
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