Bus,

We had better work rules under the Flight Crew Handbook (FCH).

Our quality of life has been eroded throughout the years. Being "optimzed", (thank you, Mr. Mook) and the Company's way of"interpreting" of the "wording" that has been negotiated regardless of "the intent" when written, (fly it now, grieve it later), are just two examples. Our retirement has stagnated.

The fact is that they don't take us seriously and we, as a group, have never given them any reason to do so.

I'm just saying that this has to end, that's all.

+1

Exactly

fbh, I think that what you're saying, is that this is about collective ego.

And I'm hoping that what has been negotiated in the TA has much tighter language, that cannot be interpreted any way that CRS likes, as they do now. I'm willing to wait to see the actual TA before making a stand, one way or another.

I hope you're right, Bus. We'll just have to wait and see.
Cheers,
fbh

I think that so far all any of the ones not happy with this TA are saying is

-We should get some kind of decent increase in the retirement
-The pay raise is not a raise, more of a COLA increase
-The POP is a big giveback in many areas.
-The insurance seems complex, and notwithstanding an explanation from our NC, new language has a way of biting us in the future. Think 4A2B, the HKG LOA, accepted fares, hotel stby used as a "new" reserve tool, just to name a few.
-By rejecting the TA, we are not going to lose our jobs because we want it to go back to the table. And even if our NC speaks for us, some of us do not feel that way at the moment, including 4 of our reps.
-The 6 week bid month. I could see the Company using it to their advantage, to our major disadvantage
-And a few more that I havent listed.

Although the TA has some improvements in certain areas, there are other areas that are more important IMO.

I dont want to tap out when the first round isnt even over. It just seems to me that a few of the comments on here are to fatalistic for me to comprehend. The sky hasnt fallen yet.

Being asked to work to the end of December brings forth another fact to consider:
According to the retirement seminars, for anyone retiring in the month of December after the 10th, due to processing time of up to 21 days, Vacation Buyback of unused/accrued hours will be paid in January, and consequently the amount will not be part of pensionable earnings in the current year. In other words, if you retire on Dec 31st, it will not be used to figure into the final year's High 5 or for the SLAB computation. I'm sure the company is well aware of the effect this will have on final earnings.

So why is vacation buyback being used as an additive in the retirement SLAB Explanation?

Apparently The Company doesn't JUST want to remove the uncertainty about WHEN a pilot retires, they also want to extract maximum productivity out of him those last two years. Work extra, work around your vacation, don't be sick, work through peak, here's your 48 cents, thankyouverymuch.








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