Dafuq? What's your military experience?

Just some issues:
- it "cheapens" the work all others have put into this career. It has taken many pilots years of flying and experience to get to this level.
- "just happy to be here" times 10000. These guys will walk into a CBA and a major airline job making 50K+ and 100k+ within a few years at likely 25 years old. It will be hard to believe they will stand with their fellow pilots on issues our Union fights.
- day VFR will be an emergency.
- they will likely be great guys and girls and fun to be around, will have great CRM and know the planes and their systems well. They will probably also do well reading a QRH when needed. When it really hits the fan and I need someone to brainstorm with and bounce ideas off of it's nice to have experience. You simply don't know what you don't know. This doesn't have to be single engine over mountains, this could be divert under marginal weather and fuel issues while working one or two other minor problems.
- upgrade. We will now need an hour requirement like a regional...seniority + 6000 hours. These pilots may get the 190 out of training and after 2.5 years, no equipment lock and get the 320 left seat in Kennedy. Get called out on an island red eye turn on reserve and their FO is....another an initio pilot.

We foot zero of the bill until they are on property and once they are here, they are paid per the contact. It's dissapointing we are lowering the bar when we have so many qualified applicants. The ONLY reason we are doing this is for attrition, these pilots will never leave...because no one else would hire them.

Just a guess, but pretty sure it wasnt rated.

Pretty sure one of our guys on BP.com nailed it.
This is nothing more than an F&H negotiating tactic.

What will you give up to make this go away? I hope nothing. Let them spin this up and watch it fail, just like "thanks is for not flying".

Solution; compensate your people appropriately and they will stay.

Maybe they mean by the "military standard" is that they will be unafraid to attrite people from the program.
The main thing that helps the military build low time pilots to send around the world is the fact that since they are not a business, they can freely waste resources, and often do.
They have improved the attrition of late by better screening and pre-flight trying flying aptitude lessons, but just 20 years ago the military would freely attrite student pilots throughout the training pipeline and unless you were in a protected class, you were done.
Most businesses would be incapable and unwilling to adopt that type of program.

I won't give up anything. They can work the radios and swing the gear. Ask a guy who spent 10 years in the regionals what they think about this.

We have interns running the company, why not the cockpit.

Absolutely no reason to give anything on this.

Someday the company will come crying to us that we have too many senior pilots on year 12 pay and zero attrition. Count on that.

what an absolutely horrible airline.

Yes this will fail. Just like when Spirit was hiring 250hr guys straight from Riddle before the rule of ATP requirement. Failed. No other way.

Can we now focus on the Fly Now Grieve Later, horrible policy?
If we allow that we are too weak. And few bucks months and months form now will not compensate for the time lost.
Am I really the only one concern with that?