Thanks in advance for any potential help! 1st post

I washed out of UPT training last year, after the Instrument phase of T-6 training.
I had 90 military hours and approx. 25 pervious civilian hours.
I've also had 50 simulator hours, but not sure if/how those count.

I Obtained My PPL “Post UPT”
I only had to fly like 10 hrs to get whatever reqs. I didn’t already have.
Right Now I’m interested in civilian career, and I’m trying to get my instrument rating, (Passed the IFR written exam already)


I'm in a sort of rare position here, does anyone have any ideas? What should I do Who would I reach out to?

*I know that students who complete UPT (roughly 230 hours) get a PPL, instrument rating, and a commercial license.



Thanks again for all of your help!

I am also a UPT washout (medical). I remained in the NG and used GI Bill to finish up. In fact, I just applied for my retirement pay.

Given your position with respect to flying time, it seems instructing is your best option. I'd look into getting into the NG or Reserve so you can take advantage of flight training benefits. Any financial help you can get is helpful. Technically, you are prior service.

Since you have the PVT, GI Bill should assist with the remainder of your training. If you can join a NG/Reserve unit, that's additional income.

So far as your simulator hours are concerned, I don't know. If you were using a level D (full motion) simulator, those might be counted. The question then becomes how to legally make those hours count. My AF sim time wasn't logable (sp?). You may need to ask someone at your local FSDO.

Good luck!

Thanks for your respond
Im sorry to hear what happened to you
well yea I forgot to mention that I was international SP, and I'm no longer in the military.

Feel like there was a very similar thread here in last year or so with some good advice. I suck at the search but maybe youll have better luck

Why did you wash out?

Walleye vision.
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LOL

And here I thought for sure I was going to be Rick Rolled. Usually, me and Vince would be happy with some freeze-dried Taster's Choice right, but he springs this serious GOURMET **** on us! What flavor is this?

Back to the point, I absolutely have to ask that question. It takes an act of god to wash out an international. You should see the Nigerians and arabs we stick wings on, I bet 50% are smoking holes in some shlt hole I never plan to go back to. My point; if you washed out for flying, then let me offer you some sound life advice, find another profession -- this ain't your calling.

During my two tours in AETC, I recall telling number of pilots this was not like civil flying. And we had pilots come through that had Regional Airline backgrounds... and washed out. They went back to the airlines.

A guy I went to college with washed out in T-38's and is now a Captain at a large legacy airline.

So now the thought pattern is that if you cannot fly in the military environment, you're unable to fly at all? Mike, I think your perspective is somewhat limited.

As usual, an APCer doesn't read what he's responding to and makes an off base reply. Try rereading my post, I didn't say anything you're accusing me of.

Generally speaking I saw plenty of dudes that I would never trust my family on an airline with make it through that should have been washed out. I also some dudes who deserved to be washed out get shown the door. But then I also saw a couple dudes who washed out, but were better than some of the dudes that made it through that shouldn't have.

In the end I don't believe a pair of Silver Wings means you will make a great and safe Airline Pilot and I also don't believe if you fall short of getting those Silver Wings that you won't make a good Airline Pilot some day.

Airmanship, safety, and discipline are shared amongst all types of flying, but UPT is a lot different than the civilian world. Don't give up dude. You can get there if you really want.