Hey, I'm within 850 now! Not bad after 16 years (he said sarcastically)!

Tq

I think the takeaway is all airlines stopped hiring for a very long time after 9/11. Most have now recovered and are experiencing impressive seniority progression (i.e., 2014 hire at DAL now holding CA).

At AA you still have 16-20 year FOs, and off the street hiring is effectively at a standstill for the rest of 2016. And this is all before the effects of SLI have been taken into account.

Mink,

Delta had nowhere near the furloughs we had. Plus, their work rules for senior WB FOs are so dang good that they make more than NB CAs. Hence, their quick upgrade time.

UAL, on the other hand, did have almost as many furloughs as we did. Take a look at their current upgrade - Jan '00, almost identical to ours. There's your answer.

Once we merge the SLI, the AA upgrade will drop to just over a year (E190.) Now factor in PBS, and you'll start seeing 3-5 year 737/A320 upgrades.

It's coming, and a lot quicker than you think.

How is that?

Six to eight year upgrades will occur due to retirements alone in a couple of years.
Add in more Group IV FO jobs and upgrade might drop even lower with or without PBS.

Assuming we still have E190s...

I do like your enthusiasm though!

What DOH/domicile is junior group IV FO now?

No, Delta hired about 1200 pilots between 2007 and 2010

Ummmm. You realize this is the American thread, right?

LGA. Nov. 2000.

About 2000 numbers away from the Oct. 2013 newhires(flow throughs).