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gojo 10-10-2017 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2443949)
What, like keeping your airline from vanishing? Oh wait....

Umm, how about working to create KCM which Skywest gets to enjoy? Or how about working to keep foreign carriers from doing domestic routes? These are just two things that dues money works for at the national level which Skywest pilots feel they're too good to contribute

rickair7777 10-10-2017 11:34 AM

MOD INPUT: No insults or flamebait allowed. We're already on thin ice with a union thread started by a non-SKW pilot in the SKW forum.

Keep civil or it's getting closed. Thanks.

rickair7777 10-10-2017 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2444490)
Umm, how about working to create KCM which Skywest gets to enjoy? Or how about working to keep foreign carriers from doing domestic routes? These are just two things that dues money works for at the national level which Skywest pilots feel they're too good to contribute


Which SKW pilots? The ones who voted yes in 2006? The ones who came from alpa carriers?

Why hasn't there been a drive in 10+ years? I know there are people interested...

amcnd 10-10-2017 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2444608)
Which SKW pilots? The ones who voted yes in 2006? The ones who came from alpa carriers?

Why hasn't there been a drive in 10+ years? I know there are people interested...

Maybe people interested on this forum board... but even that guys pushing the 2006 petition are not even interested anymore... i never hear a peep about alpa when im out flying from anyone...

TonyC 10-10-2017 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2444608)

Which SKW pilots? The ones who voted yes in 2006? The ones who came from alpa carriers?

Why hasn't there been a drive in 10+ years? I know there are people interested...


Point of fact, I believe the last vote was November 6, 2007. Not quite 10 years.


Why not since then?


I spent a lot of time back then talking to pilots in SLC. My MEC Chairman and I, invited to visit the crew room by a SkyWest pilot, were asked to leave by a management stooge because "St. George was watching, and didn't like us being there."

How did you help that organizing drive?

It's a unique culture. It reminds me of another "culture" typically associated with Utah.






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rickair7777 10-10-2017 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 2444696)
I spent a lot of time back then talking to pilots in SLC. My MEC Chairman and I, invited to visit the crew room by a SkyWest pilot, were asked to leave by a management stooge because "St. George was watching, and didn't like us being there."

That crew room is in a secure area. Whatever their motives, they are within their rights to ban non-employees. Labor organization rights do not grant carte blanche to non-employees. There were OAL alpa reps at a variety of functions in SLC, BBQ's, etc. No lack of opportunity to talk to them.


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 2444696)
How did you help that organizing drive?

On probation & commuting to reserve, and doing a lot of OCONUS military duty. While I voted yes, I do not have a religious affinity for alpa so what little time off I had I spent with my family. No regrets there.

Trying to guilt-trip people about support/participation/dues is counter-productive

TonyC 10-10-2017 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2444700)

That crew room is in a secure area. Whatever their motives, they are within their rights to ban non-employees.


Not my point, and we gladly complied with the request. My point was, even in the crew room in SLC, "St. George is watching."






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Nevjets 10-11-2017 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2444608)
Which SKW pilots? The ones who voted yes in 2006? The ones who came from alpa carriers?

Why hasn't there been a drive in 10+ years? I know there are people interested...


Yeah, the 65% of the 2500 pilots you had back then that didn't vote.;). There is probably only a small percentage of pilots on the seniority list now above the 11/07 date that voted yes at this point. But nothing stops current pilots from organizing.

word302 10-11-2017 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Nevjets (Post 2445216)
Yeah, the 65% of the 2500 pilots you had back then that didn't vote.;). There is probably only a small percentage of pilots on the seniority list now above the 11/07 date that voted yes at this point. But nothing stops current pilots from organizing.

It has already begun.

rickair7777 10-11-2017 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Nevjets (Post 2445216)
Yeah, the 65% of the 2500 pilots you had back then that didn't vote.;). There is probably only a small percentage of pilots on the seniority list now above the 11/07 date that voted yes at this point. But nothing stops current pilots from organizing.

Don't mislead people (why am I surprised)... in 2007 a ballot not cast was a no vote. That rule had since changed but back then most non voters were intentional no voters.


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