Meep

Ummm, republic flies Delta, United, and AA

Mesa flies United and AA (albeit split fleet type)

captive apple

Meep what is your confusion?

Meow1215

Don’t OO FAs enjoy benefits on all partners?

Dixie320

No, it is base dependent. Not all FA’s get AA or Alaska flight benefits. (To clarify, all SkyWest pilots and FAs get Alaska flight benefits on SkyWest operated flights, but not necessarily on Alaska mainline or horizon flights unless dedicated to Alaska flying, ie SEA, PDX, SAN, SFO).

Meow1215

I pitty whoever has to deal with the pass travel setup, that’s a terrible process. My prior comment was a little tough in cheek, but OO should have access to all partners regardless of base. An open seat is an open seat, who gets it is what nonrev travel priority grades are for.

Dixie320

Not quite true. UA has consistently been the most generous with their flight benefits. AA the most tight.

For example:
when TSA was around and flew for UA and AA, not all TSA pilots had AA benefits.

When Compass was still around, all pilots had DL benefits but not AA benefits. Only LAX pilots had AA benefits.

SkyWest stated that AA did not want to give all AA employees flight benefits as they felt that the SkyWest operation for AA was not big enough and that not all employees were supporting the operation. This kind of makes sense when you look at Republic because they have such a large portion of their fleet dedicated to American, plus they have a lot of outstation basing which allows a large percentage of their crews to work all three brands.

And not all flight benefits are equal. If you compare the flight benefits for Delta that SkyWest and Republic have, you’ll see that there are slight differences between travel charges.

Do Mesa E175 pilots get AA flight benefits? SkyWest E175 pilots do not, at least not yet. And when SkyWest gets American E175s, I imagine that only certain bases will get AA benefits. When SkyWest first got the E175 and flew them only for United, they did not get Delta flight benefits. It would be nice for the SkyWest pilots if they extended the benefits on all partners the way that Republic does.

brockenspectre

So, you admit that ALPA would hold no water either, making you and your initial point pretty silly.

brockenspectre

Yes would be nice to everyone to have access to everything, but when you serve 4 masters it gets a little sticky.

Sperrysan

no that is not what I am saying. They have a whole lot more negotiating power than the student council. What you are speaking of with all those different carriers is a whole lot of negotiating capital they the pilot group would use up to get that benefit. So the question is what is your pass travel benefits worth to you? A significant pay cut? Reduction in other benefits?

Meow1215

Yes, 4 masters is a contributing factor. But it’s weird the way it is setup, not to mention it’s got to be difficult for the pass bureau to keep track of it. Both on the OO side and the mainline partner side. YX serves three masters and has it. While I don’t think being an ALPA carrier is a magic bullet solution, it would definitely go further given 3/4 of those mainline partners are ALPA shops.