SkyWest to sell ExpressJet to United Airlines
12-18-2018, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Actually... you can't do a staple anymore, especially with ALPA/ALPA. There would have to be a fair and equitable integration.
You can sort of make the case that a staple is sort of fair but the more senior XJT people (the majority of them) will insist on something for their longevity. Established precedent will give them something.
Only way around that would be do like SWA did with tranny... make them an offer they can't refuse, but the company would have to be integral to that (UA-ALPA can't unilaterally shut down the XJT certificate).
You can sort of make the case that a staple is sort of fair but the more senior XJT people (the majority of them) will insist on something for their longevity. Established precedent will give them something.
Only way around that would be do like SWA did with tranny... make them an offer they can't refuse, but the company would have to be integral to that (UA-ALPA can't unilaterally shut down the XJT certificate).
12-18-2018, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
ALPA merger policy wouldn’t apply with a regional takeover
Why not? Both pilot groups are ALPA. It’s been a while but I don’t remember reading anything in the ALPA merger policy saying it wouldn’t apply in this type of situation. The career expectations part of the policy would apply overwhelmingly favorably to mainline pilots. So much so that a straight staple may be seen as fair and equitably by a panel of arbitrators.
12-19-2018, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
I love how XJT thinks UA bought them...... UA will pull the strings.( I.e want there E145’s as cheap as there other joint ventures”) but good bet is the Commute Air CEO is going to be there yes man..
12-19-2018, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JuniorFO
They own more of XJT than SkyWest.
Meen while, OO still gouges you on I.T. Services...
5. Will ExpressJet people become United employees?
No, they will remain employed by ExpressJet and owned by a third party United joint venture.
6. How long will SkyWest, Inc. continue to support certain functions in IT, Accounting and Benefits?
A transition period is customary and may be between 6-18 months.
12-19-2018, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
ALPA merger policy wouldn’t apply with a regional takeover
Now you could make a case that "fair and equitable" would be something that looks a lot like a staple, since both career expectations and longevity are low on the regional side but some senior RJ guys would get a big windfall and the left seat of at least a NB.
That's why the senior lifers at COMAIR pushed so hard for seniority integration at DAL... it would have tripled their pay overnight.
In other words, what Nevjets just said.
12-19-2018, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Oh yes it would. There are no legal provisions (that I've heard of) which apply the traditional major airline pilot cultural superiority and entitlement to an SLI. In both federal law and ALPA policy an airline is an airline is an airline.
Now you could make a case that "fair and equitable" would be something that looks a lot like a staple, since both career expectations and longevity are low on the regional side but some senior RJ guys would get a big windfall and the left seat of at least a NB.
That's why the senior lifers at COMAIR pushed so hard for seniority integration at DAL... it would have tripled their pay overnight.
In other words, what Nevjets just said.
Now you could make a case that "fair and equitable" would be something that looks a lot like a staple, since both career expectations and longevity are low on the regional side but some senior RJ guys would get a big windfall and the left seat of at least a NB.
That's why the senior lifers at COMAIR pushed so hard for seniority integration at DAL... it would have tripled their pay overnight.
In other words, what Nevjets just said.
12-19-2018, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
“Some Senior RJ guys would get a big windfall”. There in lies the problem. How do you weigh longevity at a regional? No RJ lifer deserves to be in front of a mainline new hire. Period. An indefinite fence perhaps?
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