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Old 10-28-2021, 05:06 PM
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ask again in 3 days when this months bids are out….
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Upgrade on the ERJ is under 2 years.. same with the CRJ..
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Old 10-28-2021, 05:20 PM
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Upgrade on the ERJ is under 2 years.. same with the CRJ..
yep - just about back to 1,000 SIC and upgrade
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Old 10-28-2021, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd View Post
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Upgrade on the ERJ is under 2 years.. same with the CRJ..
Wow, that’s the most Jr. ERJ175 monthly award bid ever correct? That’s including covid time too. So I’d say it’s realistically under a year for new hires today (and it will continue to go more junior).

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I decided to listen in on the earnings call today (still own some shares), I think it was a guy from J.P. Morgan who brought up attrition numbers. Chip tried to give him the “we’re hiring more pilots than are leaving” answer. The guy gives a slightly smart response “yeah isn’t that expensive? How much is that cutting into your profit margins every month now?”. 😂😂😂

Chip gave him the, “we’re not going into any further details than that publicly atm, but we’re aware”. 😂🤣

It’s a good point that LCC’s had/have issues with as well. It’s tough to match pay rates of any Major at the regional level (obviously won’t happen), so an increased pay rate of $10-20 won’t solve jack $hit, they’ll have to create some sort of incentive to stay (good luck, that “carrot” flow isn’t working too well for attrition over at the WO’s).

It’s great SkyWest is netting more pilots per month, but training 250 new hires a month isn’t cheap (especially when 150 are replacements). They better come up with a solution or C-suite will be taking a massive hit where it hurts the most, their pockets.

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Old 10-28-2021, 07:33 PM
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It’s great SkyWest is netting more pilots per month, but training 250 new hires a month isn’t cheap (especially when 150 are replacements). They better come up with a solution or C-suite will be taking a massive hit where it hurts the most, their pockets.
They were gearing up for this before Covid, and it's definitely been built into their future contracts already. They'll be ok.
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Old 10-28-2021, 07:57 PM
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They were gearing up for this before Covid, and it's definitely been built into their future contracts already. They'll be ok.
I’m sure they were, but for 2022 attrition? Doubtful, or CC’s response wouldn’t have been, “we’re aware of the issue”. It will be interesting to see how the next few years play out around the entire industry.
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Old 10-28-2021, 08:00 PM
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CC doesnt think about pilot numbers on a daily basis…. He has a VP, manager of pilot recruitment and directors that handle all of that.. His answer is what was expected from a CEO….
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Old 10-28-2021, 08:11 PM
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CC doesnt think about pilot numbers on a daily basis…. He has a VP, manager of pilot recruitment and directors that handle all of that.. His answer is what was expected from a CEO….
You think he stares out his window all day from his office in St. George? I’m sure he receives detailed reports and has a VERY good idea of the “numbers”.

They have zero reason to go public for any potential proactive measures to counteract attrition. I’m sure CC and his team have likely evaluated, or are evaluating the current hiring environment and have a list of potential solutions.

I just had to laugh a little bit at the “we’re aware” remark because it’s the most SkyWest answer ever. Nothing gets leaked in St. George.

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Old 10-29-2021, 03:09 AM
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They were gearing up for this before Covid, and it's definitely been built into their future contracts already. They'll be ok.
So running at zero reserve levels was the plan?
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Old 10-29-2021, 04:28 AM
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So running at zero reserve levels was the plan?
That was, is and always will be the plan..
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Old 10-29-2021, 05:03 AM
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So running at zero reserve levels was the plan?
they’ve been doing that for 8 years now, so I’d say yes.
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