Originally Posted by TipTanks (Post 3468806)

Chip/Wade emphasized numerous times that the shortage is Captains, and that all efforts are focused on CA retention.

Originally Posted by TipTanks (Post 3468713)

Predictions for quarterly results conference call today:

- in a surprise move, SkyWest will join a 3-way merger with Frontier and Breeze
- David Neeleman will be the new CEO and will lead the new company from SGU
- The company name will be SkyBreeze with cute animals painted on the tails of all airplanes. Insects on the tails of CRJ-200s.
- The combined company will be represented by SAPA. Details on the combined pilot contract are forthcoming, but everyone should "manage their expectations". It will take a few months. Or years. And after all, it's the busy flying season so nobody has time to review the contract anyway.

Originally Posted by VegasChris (Post 3469061)

Best thing for FOs to do is take the training and type rating, get a 1000 hours of 121 time, then bounce to ULCC or even to AA WO carriers as DEC.

Originally Posted by domino (Post 3469072)

And metering to DL will drop from 7.5 months to 7 months.

Originally Posted by VegasChris (Post 3469061)

As an FO I really hope for what you listed above, but I don't think it will be even close to that.

Best thing for FOs to do is take the training and type rating, get a 1000 hours of 121 time, then bounce to ULCC or even to AA WO carriers as DEC.

As long as OO can maintain eating the training costs and have a line of brand new CFIs waiting months for a class date there is no reason for SGU to raise FO wages. The training costs are not our problem and come out of a different budget....and maybe OO has planned for those costs anyways.

I think they are going to make it harder for captains that they already have to leave by increasing pay and they are going to put incentives on upgrades. Incentives still won't come with career progression and will probably lock upgrades into OO for a minimum of 2 years.

Without gaurantee of career progression outside of the company within a reasonable amount of time- I see NO REASON TO UPGRADE unless they are offering mainline wages (see envoy LCA pay) ..... And that is a long term solution for the pilots in the realm of reality.

Originally Posted by 123AB (Post 3469055)

I really agree with you. I sure hope there is some focus on decent improvements to FO pay and QoL improvements. For FO pay, I am hoping to see it moved up to at least $60 an hour for Year 1. Of course I’d like more, but I am “managing my expectations”. Also hope to see at least one additional day off each month and several other QoL improvements as well.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see a laundry list of things, but these are just a few aspects I hope to see.

Originally Posted by Jeepers (Post 3469315)

$75 an hour or it’s a no. Why would you expect to be paid 30$ less an hour than an envoy guy doing the same job? Why take a 33% pay cut vs them if there is no benefit to us. We take less pay for better QOL plain and simple. Value yourself and if you can’t do that at least value others enough to demand more.

Originally Posted by 123AB (Post 3469380)

I agree with you on valuing ourselves and sorry if I didn’t make myself clear. I will absolutely be pushing for more with my singular vote. I was just predicting what I think the end result might be and I hope I’m wrong and the pilot group holds out for more!