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jpso 08-22-2022 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by goodridecowboy (Post 3481980)
Is having confidence in SAPA foolish? Probably. But I'd like to believe that they're ironing out legal language and minute details before allowing us to vote on it.

Tell me you're brand new at skywest without telling me you're brand new at skywest.


Paperwork is on TT's desk awaiting a signature I'm sure.

Round Luggage 08-22-2022 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by TipTanks (Post 3481983)
So why don’t they just say that?

They did. For someone so angry about the lack of communication, it might behoove you to actually read what is published. The AIP was announced 12 days ago not three weeks ago and laid out a time line of a week for a TA as long as no contractual language needed to be defined more clearly. Guess what they then communicated to us…

123AB 08-22-2022 07:09 PM

^ Exactly. I’m anxious to see it too, but SAPA has communicated with us.

zycho 08-22-2022 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by Round Luggage (Post 3481991)
They did. For someone so angry about the lack of communication, it might behoove you to actually read what is published. The AIP was announced 12 days ago not three weeks ago and laid out a time line of a week for a TA as long as no contractual language needed to be defined more clearly. Guess what they then communicated to us…

Be honest now.
You said you didn’t think, and you hoped, there’d be no contractual language problems so you’d present the TA a week ago. What happened? What’d you (or Tracy) screw up? Again I ask, did the TA die?
There’s a ton of good pilots deserving this thing now. Yesterday really. But you know that.

The DB thing was awesome obtw.

PorkyMcFuzz 08-22-2022 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by jpso (Post 3481984)
Tell me you're brand new at skywest without telling me you're brand new at skywest.


Paperwork is on TT's desk awaiting a signature I'm sure.

Ah yes, the fabled desk of TT...also the location of who killed JFK, where Jimmy Hoffa's body is and the truth about UFOs.

goodridecowboy 08-22-2022 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by jpso (Post 3481984)
Tell me you're brand new at skywest without telling me you're brand new at skywest.

Paperwork is on TT's desk awaiting a signature I'm sure.

Guilty. But I'd rather hope for something good than be completely nihilistic about it.


Originally Posted by PorkyMcFuzz (Post 3482020)
Ah yes, the fabled desk of TT...also the location of who killed JFK, where Jimmy Hoffa's body is and the truth about UFOs.

That's where the DB Cooper money is too

mazerRack 08-23-2022 07:30 AM

CommutAir new LOA:

FO: $25,000 sign on bonus, $72/hr starting, $25,000 per year retention bonus.
CP: $100/hr, $50,000 per year retention bonus ($50,000 direct entry bonus)

Monthly minimum guarantee bumped up to 76 hours (from 75).

Commuters get 4 or 6 monthly hotel rooms (line holders 4, reserve 6)
6 floating vacation days

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Our TA is going to look so bad compared to this (and that's not even compared to Envoy/PSA/Piedmont).

Round Luggage 08-23-2022 07:34 AM

Really great analysis, thanks

mazerRack 08-23-2022 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Round Luggage (Post 3482216)
That’s isn’t going to work.

Really great analysis, thanks

123AB 08-23-2022 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by mazerRack (Post 3482213)
CommutAir new LOA:

FO: $25,000 sign on bonus, $72/hr starting, $25,000 per year retention bonus.
CP: $100/hr, $50,000 per year retention bonus ($50,000 direct entry bonus)

Monthly minimum guarantee bumped up to 76 hours (from 75).

Commuters get 4 or 6 monthly hotel rooms (line holders 4, reserve 6)
6 floating vacation days

-----------------------------

Our TA is going to look so bad compared to this (and that's not even compared to Envoy/PSA/Piedmont).

I must admit, I never thought I would consider leaving for another regional, but if our new pay agreement doesn’t at least go into the $70+ an hour range for 1st year FOs and have at least a few quality of life improvements, then I will likely leave.

I have only been off IOE for a little over a month now. 6 people in my class left SkyWest in the last 2 weeks. 5 for Envoy and 1 for PSA.

I like SkyWest so far, but cannot justify staying if the pay is not competitive with other Regionals. I recently moved to Boise and it would not be hard to up and move again. I would just want to ensure that I can get into a training class quickly.


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