What is the maximum hours for IOE??
01-03-2020, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Flogger
Chill.
Get out of your own head on this. Trust the instructors. If they thought you weren't going to complete IOE, they would have sacked you by now.
IOE is subject to so many variables such as weather, de-icing, butthole ATC, etc. etc.
Just relax and have fun. Fly the plane.
Get out of your own head on this. Trust the instructors. If they thought you weren't going to complete IOE, they would have sacked you by now.
IOE is subject to so many variables such as weather, de-icing, butthole ATC, etc. etc.
Just relax and have fun. Fly the plane.
01-04-2020, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pad39a
Thanks. I didn’t think so, but I don’t have any ERJ time. Was curious when a couple different people in the thread mentioned the automation making visuals more difficult.
01-04-2020, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TenaciousB
They actually ARE more challenging to many. The ERJ is more “slippery” so it takes more thought on energy management. There are also more ways to do the same thing- manage that energy. Ex. FLCH with speed on elevator and use drag to panache the flight path angle, FPA speed on thrust and set the angle there, etc. None are wrong but it can seem more complex at first until you develop your own technique.
Works like a charm in any aircraft.
01-04-2020, 02:28 PM
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Sounds like your almost done. When you hit 250 to 350 hours you might have them down. They teach us to pass a check ride in the sims. Visuals are always different if you let them be. Use the FAF just like you would with approaches. Don't be afraid to hand fly the airplane. It is so easy to get caught up in the automation.
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01-04-2020, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pad39a
Tangentially—what is it about the 170/175 automation that makes a visual in an ERJ more challenging than a CRJ?
I can imagine many newhire's first instinct is to manage the automation on a visual before resorting to hand flying (unfortunately) because that is how the airplane is taught.
But tangibly, a visual is the same on any plane if you're hand flying it.
01-05-2020, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rswitz
If you disconnect and hand fly, technically nothing. However, with the AP engaged, theres many different modes and methods of controlling the airplane. (FLCH speed on elevator, FPA speed on thrust, VS, all kinds of VNAV stuff etc) Until one develops their own technique, choosing which methods to use can present a challenge.
I can imagine many newhire's first instinct is to manage the automation on a visual before resorting to hand flying (unfortunately) because that is how the airplane is taught.
But tangibly, a visual is the same on any plane if you're hand flying it.
I can imagine many newhire's first instinct is to manage the automation on a visual before resorting to hand flying (unfortunately) because that is how the airplane is taught.
But tangibly, a visual is the same on any plane if you're hand flying it.
01-05-2020, 08:02 AM
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-Start configuring at/by 15 miles out. Late configuration changes are a big cause of being behind the plane on visuals.
-You can put a 5 mile ring in the nav box on the piano keys of the landing runway, and then when you get there, use it to steer to final.
-stay off the rudders on final.
-the nav box probably has visual approaches in it for guidance only on finals. Beware though, they are advisory only.
-You can put a 5 mile ring in the nav box on the piano keys of the landing runway, and then when you get there, use it to steer to final.
-stay off the rudders on final.
-the nav box probably has visual approaches in it for guidance only on finals. Beware though, they are advisory only.
01-05-2020, 08:14 AM
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I’ve watched republic hold 250 to 15 miles from the jump seat. That wouldn’t be possible on a CRJ with me flying. I don’t have any drag graphs or data to prove the ERJ isn’t more “slippery” or more configuration friendly but 250 to 15 was awesome.
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