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savedbythevnav 03-07-2020 07:18 AM

Schedule Reductions
 
Via SWOL. Not any surprise of course.


Team,

This week there have been a number of mainline carriers, including United, who have announced schedule reductions in April. These adjustments are largely being driven by uncertainty with demand related to COVID-19. As you know, the risk of being infected with COVID-19 is currently low in the U.S. and we are implementing changes that will continue to keep you and all those on our aircraft safe. We also want to keep you informed about what we are expecting for our upcoming schedules.

We have been reviewing schedules with our partners and expect to see a slight block hour reduction compared to what was originally planned. This reduction is largely targeting off-peak flights and banks that typically have the lowest demand. As you’re aware, April is generally a reduction over March’s peak schedules, and these changes are just slightly more reduced than we had originally scheduled. We expect that some flight schedule changes will be visible soon.

The health and safety of our people and passengers is our top priority. We continue working closely with our partners as well as the Center for Disease Control and the World Health Organization to monitor the virus and to ensure the continued safety of our people and passengers. We’ve created a section of SkyWest Online to make it easier to see the latest updates on this issue.

I want to thank you all for the work you are doing every day to take care of customers. We will continue to share updates as new information is available; keep an eye on SkyWest Online and for bulletins or other communication from your department leaders.

Thanks,

Chip

GearUpHeadDown 03-07-2020 08:13 AM

Enjoy the lower credit hours and extra time off. I’m sure some will even complain about that though!

Simpsons 03-07-2020 11:17 AM

I just noticed I had a carry on pairing into April that had legs canceled. At least there’s pay protections

Utah 03-07-2020 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Simpsons (Post 2991461)
I just noticed I had a carry on pairing into April that had legs canceled. At least there’s pay protections

Maybe my sarcasm meter is broken. You're not pay protected at this point for April flying.

Simpsons 03-07-2020 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Utah (Post 2991503)
Maybe my sarcasm meter is broken. You're not pay protected at this point for April flying.

Well that’s a kick in the balls. We wouldn’t be pay protected for an awarded pairing?

captive apple 03-07-2020 02:26 PM

This is a small industry, do not take words from company and post them online.
Talk about this in your own words.
Maybe state an opinion.

GearUpHeadDown 03-07-2020 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 2991592)
This is a small industry, do not take words from company and post them online.
Talk about this in your own words.
Maybe state an opinion.

Right? Why are you posting internal company info on a public forum. Those who need to see it, already have access. Might even be a PPM violation?

herewego 03-07-2020 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Simpsons (Post 2991520)
Well that’s a kick in the balls. We wouldn’t be pay protected for an awarded pairing?

it's called drop in transition and is covered in the PPM.
those days you were scheduled to fly in April are now open for different trips or for days off. Just as those hours would have counted towards your 75 hour guarantee in April. At the end of april there will be no net difference in your pay between flying those days instead of any newly scheduled ones from the next PBS run.

savedbythevnav 03-08-2020 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 2991592)
This is a small industry, do not take words from company and post them online.
Talk about this in your own words.
Maybe state an opinion.

My opinion is that you are delusional. Stop talking.

savedbythevnav 03-08-2020 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by GearUpHeadDown (Post 2991599)
Might even be a PPM violation?

File that PIC!

domino 03-08-2020 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by savedbythevnav (Post 2991875)
My opinion is that you are delusional. Stop talking.

He Is. And then there’s this so plan for the long term..

The coronavirus has already sent stock markets into convulsions, rattled supply chains and forced companies to dust off emergency response plans. Stocks plunged again on Thursday, with the S&P 500 falling more than 3 percent. But the abrupt decline in global air travel suggests that the economic impacts of the outbreak may be entering a more disruptive phase.
It has been almost 20 years since the aviation industry faced such an existential threat. After the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, global air travel plummeted, and it took years for airlines to fully recover. Today there are worries that the coronavirus could have a similarly disastrous impact.

CRJJ 03-08-2020 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by domino (Post 2991973)
He Is. And then there’s this so plan for the long term..

The coronavirus has already sent stock markets into convulsions, rattled supply chains and forced companies to dust off emergency response plans. Stocks plunged again on Thursday, with the S&P 500 falling more than 3 percent. But the abrupt decline in global air travel suggests that the economic impacts of the outbreak may be entering a more disruptive phase.
It has been almost 20 years since the aviation industry faced such an existential threat. After the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, global air travel plummeted, and it took years for airlines to fully recover. Today there are worries that the coronavirus could have a similarly disastrous impact.

I bet a 6 pack of Coronas that your favorite TV show is the X files.

savedbythevnav 03-08-2020 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by domino (Post 2991973)
He Is. And then there’s this so plan for the long term..

The coronavirus has already sent stock markets into convulsions, rattled supply chains and forced companies to dust off emergency response plans. Stocks plunged again on Thursday, with the S&P 500 falling more than 3 percent. But the abrupt decline in global air travel suggests that the economic impacts of the outbreak may be entering a more disruptive phase.
It has been almost 20 years since the aviation industry faced such an existential threat. After the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, global air travel plummeted, and it took years for airlines to fully recover. Today there are worries that the coronavirus could have a similarly disastrous impact.

I personally choose to be more optimistic, but the unfortunate reality is that the history doesn’t lie. What you’re saying could be a complete right-wing conspiracy type theory or it could be what happens. But you put it best: Plan for the long term.

domino 03-10-2020 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by savedbythevnav (Post 2992145)
I personally choose to be more optimistic, but the unfortunate reality is that the history doesn’t lie. What you’re saying could be a complete right-wing conspiracy type theory or it could be what happens. But you put it best: Plan for the long term.

Always helps to plan for the worst and not need it than be caught off guard when the worst happens

savedbythevnav 03-10-2020 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by domino (Post 2993708)
Always helps to plan for the worst and not need it than be caught off guard when the worst happens

The events of today and yesterday are a perfect example. Hopefully we've forgotten all about this by this time next year.

Rodger Wilco 03-12-2020 11:21 AM

I wonder what that “Drop this pairing” button does in sked+...?
It has never worked in the past but maybe it’ll work next month.

savedbythevnav 03-12-2020 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Rodger Wilco (Post 2995697)
I wonder what that “Drop this pairing” button does in sked+...?
It has never worked in the past but maybe it’ll work next month.

I have been graced with the satisfaction of using that button.

Soon.

domino 03-12-2020 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Rodger Wilco (Post 2995697)
I wonder what that “Drop this pairing” button does in sked+...?
It has never worked in the past but maybe it’ll work next month.

Ha ha. Not a hope. Has anyone factored in how many pilots are about to get sick, some seriously??
If projections are right, almost half the pollution is likely to get hit. Including, shock, pilots...who are out with the masses. I’d hazard to say
more than 50% will get it

CRJJ 03-12-2020 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by domino (Post 2995761)
Ha ha. Not a hope. Has anyone factored in how many pilots are about to get sick, some seriously??
If projections are right, almost half the pollution is likely to get hit. Including, shock, pilots...who are out with the masses. I’d hazard to say
more than 50% will get it

Do you ever say something positive? Apart from all the "facts" you love and all the drama, justified or not. Have you ever tried been positive to compensate a little bit. You should try.

jpso 03-12-2020 02:06 PM

I've got 3 hours of user time banked. Should be enough to cover me for corona virus right?

captive apple 03-12-2020 02:24 PM

He's right, depending on how quickly it spreads a very large chunk of pilots could be out at once.
If you have it with minor symptoms, you still don't get to come to work. Imagine the press release, pilot from x company knew he had the virus and elected to fly around the country.

Utah 03-12-2020 02:42 PM

If there is one thing you can count on is that pilots will come to work sick. I've seen it multiple times. They're either worried about their reliability number, pay, or answering the question on an app about how many days they've missed. And remember, once you get above 3-4 days missed in a year you are ineligible for work in the training department.

And the FAs are worse.

gojo 03-12-2020 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Utah (Post 2995939)
If there is one thing you can count on is that pilots will come to work sick. I've seen it multiple times. They're either worried about their reliability number, pay, or answering the question on an app about how many days they've missed. And remember, once you get above 3-4 days missed in a year you are ineligible for work in the training department.

And the FAs are worse.

mare you talking about days missed in a year, or trips?

Utah 03-12-2020 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2995974)
mare you talking about days missed in a year, or trips?

Days missed. I'm not sure now what the number is, but in years past your app for the training department was automatically kicked out above a certain number. They don't have reserves for the training department, therefore they don't want people that call in sick very much. They have gotten desperate lately though...

Utah 03-12-2020 03:47 PM

Next rumor - all future new hire classes postponed. No more interviews.

TheOtherGuy25 03-12-2020 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Utah (Post 2996015)
Next rumor - all future new hire classes postponed. No more interviews.

I can believe it. I’m not sure how the hiring is still going given there will be virtually zero movement for at least 3-6 months or more.

Perhaps SkyWest is positioning themselves to be at the top of pilot numbers and able to take on contracts when the majors actually pick up again?

trip 03-12-2020 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by jpso (Post 2995898)
I've got 3 hours of user time banked. Should be enough to cover me for corona virus right?

Don't sweat it, you can apply for LOA, unpaid of course.

sn00p 03-12-2020 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by savedbythevnav (Post 2995702)
I have been graced with the satisfaction of using that button.

Soon.

Sure you’re talking in jest.

However, if you’re not smarten up and plan for the worst.

jpso 03-12-2020 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 2996149)
Don't sweat it, you can apply for LOA, unpaid of course.

Whew, thank god!

Hopefully we can link any illness to a previous passenger, otherwise we're not pay protected. Of course, that passenger actually has to be screened and release all necessary info to get that information back to us to qualify. Seems as though we're not pay protected if we get infected while dead heading, walking through terminals, riding in hotel vans/taxi cabs, or staying at a hotel; maybe I just read the email the wrong way?

savedbythevnav 03-12-2020 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by sn00p (Post 2996176)
Sure you’re talking in jest.

However, if you’re not smarten up and plan for the worst.

Oh absolutely in jest. If anyone isn’t putting money away, now is the time to start. Hopefully this turns out to be a distant memory but always plan for the worst.

sn00p 03-12-2020 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by savedbythevnav (Post 2996189)
Oh absolutely in jest. If anyone isn’t putting money away, now is the time to start. Hopefully this turns out to be a distant memory but always plan for the worst.

With you on that man and cool response.

Regardless, hoping for the best for everyone at each airline and workforce.

captive apple 03-12-2020 07:00 PM

They are opening up April vacations to be self cancelable.

Are they thinking a lot of us are going to be out sick...

shrsailplanes 03-13-2020 05:40 AM

Just had an update to my skedplus. My last trip for March is now pending. In the past this meant I was being displaced for an IOE trip. I’m thinking this is more a schedule reduction thing. Pending on skedplus has always meant pay protected in the past though.

PilotBrandon07 03-13-2020 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 2996459)
Just had an update to my skedplus. My last trip for March is now pending. In the past this meant I was being displaced for an IOE trip. I’m thinking this is more a schedule reduction thing. Pending on skedplus has always meant pay protected in the past though.

I would imagine it would be a standard displacement. If all flights were cancelled you would be put on cancellation reserve and if just some flights were cancelled you'd be reflowed. The partners have already committed for all March flying so they're paying for it might as well let it fly.

domino 03-13-2020 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by PilotBrandon07 (Post 2996500)
I would imagine it would be a standard displacement. If all flights were cancelled you would be put on cancellation reserve and if just some flights were cancelled you'd be reflowed. The partners have already committed for all March flying so they're paying for it might as well let it fly.

Skywest is in a bad place given its position of relying on AA,DL,AK, UA....all hurting big time and about to get worse for 6 months or more. There is no way any airline is escaping the inevitable.

shrsailplanes 03-13-2020 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by PilotBrandon07 (Post 2996500)
I would imagine it would be a standard displacement. If all flights were cancelled you would be put on cancellation reserve and if just some flights were cancelled you'd be reflowed. The partners have already committed for all March flying so they're paying for it might as well let it fly.

I think new hires are getting LAX now. So, you’re probably right. The main reason I left SLC was to be in base, but getting displaced for IOE was always kind of a bummer. Was hoping to get away from that in LA. Oh well. There are definitely worse things.

captive apple 03-13-2020 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 2996459)
Just had an update to my skedplus. My last trip for March is now pending. In the past this meant I was being displaced for an IOE trip. I’m thinking this is more a schedule reduction thing. Pending on skedplus has always meant pay protected in the past though.

You are pay protected. People are still finishing in the school house everyday needing to displace line holders.

PilotBrandon07 03-13-2020 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by domino (Post 2996510)
Skywest is in a bad place given its position of relying on AA,DL,AK, UA....all hurting big time and about to get worse for 6 months or more. There is no way any airline is escaping the inevitable.

IMHO Skywest is in a better place than the majors. They negotiate minimum block hours when they sign the long contracts so they're going to get paid unless majors start declaring bankruptcy. This is not uncharted territory for SGU. They know what they're doing.

Meep 03-13-2020 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by domino (Post 2996510)
Skywest is in a bad place given its position of relying on AA,DL,AK, UA....all hurting big time and about to get worse for 6 months or more. There is no way any airline is escaping the inevitable.

Its a regional, lol. They’re probably in a better position than the wholly owned carriers (their wagon is hitched to one horse). But, no airline is in a great position at this point.

amcnd 03-13-2020 07:21 AM

All this bickering and trying to figure out what the future holds. Having worked through 9/11. Just be glad you have a job. That pays $50 a hr to start. Back them. We were all getting $19-24 a hour and blessed just to have a flying job.. hunker down. And don't get picky if your job hunting...


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