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Old 03-19-2020, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by skblu View Post
And no pay for everyone that was in training... we all got locked out of KCM and “unpaid administrative leave” pasted to our sched+ calendars
just remember Skywest Has never furloughed. They just give unpaid administrative leave.
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Old 03-19-2020, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tonsterboy5 View Post
just remember Skywest Has never furloughed. They just give unpaid administrative leave.
If we have a seniority number, lose all benefits, and aren’t getting paid, what’s the difference?
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Old 03-19-2020, 07:08 AM
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Did they say they were calling people back by company seniority or pilot seniority?
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Old 03-19-2020, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by nate5ks View Post
Did they say they were calling people back by company seniority or pilot seniority?
Pilot seniority
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Old 03-19-2020, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by skblu View Post
If we have a seniority number, lose all benefits, and aren’t getting paid, what’s the difference?
that’s my point, there are a lot of kool aid drinkers who brag about never furloughing
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Old 03-19-2020, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TheOtherGuy25 View Post
Furloughing half the pilot group would be very much not in their interests unless things got dramatically worse - which I accept could of course happen.

The cost involved of recalling and retraining that many pilots in a possible short period of time would be utterly staggering, even over a not so short period it will cost a absolute fortune to do. I have no doubt there will be some furloughs at some stage, but hopefully with the mix of unpaid leave takers (Plus I know a number of senior captains who are going to retire early due to this) reduced credit lines, A LOT of cash on hand and cheap oil among other factors will offset the number they would need to look at.

From the numbers I’ve crunched and including all trainees already sent home which was quite a few, my estimate was around 18 to 25% at the most at this stage, I don’t have access to nearly a fraction of the data management uses to figure these things out however. I truly hope it’s zero percent though.
just watch them.

retrain is only an issue if you actually need to move people from the left seat to the right seat or from one aircraft to another.

what if you selectively furlough - out of seniority order?

think of it as a by-pass just like the regular practice.

operational need and such.
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Old 03-19-2020, 08:59 AM
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Cliff notes from this mornings SAPA call>
Lots of interest in VLOA but 2 week callback seems to be an issue with interested volunteers?
If VLOA doesn’t meet staffing requirements then looking at reduced line credit for reserve and line holders. Possible down to 62/72?
Last option is furlough.
New hires sent home are in limbo as to status, SAPA is bringing this up everyday for a better answer, “limbo” cannot continue.


Stay safe out there.
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Originally Posted by TFAYD View Post
just watch them.

retrain is only an issue if you actually need to move people from the left seat to the right seat or from one aircraft to another.

what if you selectively furlough - out of seniority order?

think of it as a by-pass just like the regular practice.

operational need and such.
And what if the reptilian, shape-shifting, lizard illuminati are behind it all?

Stop putting false ideas out there.
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Old 03-19-2020, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes View Post
And what if the reptilian, shape-shifting, lizard illuminati are behind it all?

Stop putting false ideas out there.
the company can get very creative when they want to. Upgrade / transition in seniority order? Not so much. Why would they not try the same in this situation? That’s the way we have always done it ....

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Old 03-19-2020, 09:42 AM
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Just interviewed with Sky west on Monday. It appears that the four people in our group all got rejection emails. They’ve also closed down their training classes and sent all the trainees home. There’s also a gentleman at my Flight school who was supposed to report in three weeks and he has been told not to report. So apparently SkyWest has shut down training during the Corona crisis.
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