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Strenyakov 06-22-2022 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by 310skying (Post 3445079)
if you had a union and a CBA you could have gone on strike for a status quo violation… too bad too many thought alpa wasn’t worth it

At ALPA we really showed evereyone how to protect Pan Am, Eastern, Midway, ATA, Frontier, Braniff,

Bruh1950 06-23-2022 06:14 AM

SkyWest Union
 

Originally Posted by RJSCUM (Post 3446087)
My brother in Christ, I’ve always said we will never unionize until it’s too late. Hope I’m wrong. Would love to see a union on property but each day the writing on the wall becomes clearer…time to move on.

I agree with you it is time to move on, I think that if previous SkyWest pilots had the mindset of building something we wouldn’t be making less than Mesa. A union would give us at least someone who is on our side, and for me it’s just about us; because anyone can leave right now. It feels gross when the same people who are supposed to be on our side (SAPA) are just a mouthpiece for management. Why is every single email from them lower your expectations? Why do we want SkyWest to be a 6 month-1 year destination before moving to LCC’s? SkyWest could fix this staffing issue if they wanted, it’s not a secret what fixes things. We literally have been screaming about what we want every day in every possible outlet for years now.

TwOtter 06-23-2022 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by HPNjohn (Post 3445739)
Y’all need to learn how to read your FAR’s…

You’re missing the “or”

(1) Of a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger-seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119 of this chapter, unless that person holds an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings and, if required, an appropriate type rating for that airplane.

These are the things that need an ATP under part 135
-Any turbojet aircraft (any amount of seats)
-Any aircraft with 10 or more seats
-Any multi engine aircraft operating in a 119 commuter operation


You're right, I didn't think into it enough. I was thinking about the Cape Air type operation (piston) and didn't think about it farther down into the regs with the CRJs.

rickair7777 06-23-2022 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by Strenyakov (Post 3446198)
At ALPA we really showed evereyone how to protect Pan Am, Eastern, Midway, ATA, Frontier, Braniff,

Unions, at any level, will not fix industry dynamics. In some cases they can actually make it worse.

The good news is that we're well beyond the post-deregulation reckoning and transition. Most majors are probably too big to fail right now, baring some epic catastrophe. We already pressed-to-test on that in 2020.

Alpiner 06-23-2022 02:36 PM

1500hr CA and 250hr FO, seems safe!

amcnd 06-23-2022 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Alpiner (Post 3446627)
1500hr CA and 250hr FO, seems safe!

750hr FO’s…And Captains with 2000-18k plus…

SonicFlyer 06-23-2022 06:27 PM

Why are people butthurt about this? Seems like a good way to introduce the low time pilots to solid experience.

Jeff Spicoli 06-23-2022 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3446718)
Why are people butthurt about this? Seems like a good way to introduce the low time pilots to solid experience.


Bruh. People literally died last time.

“I’ve never seen so much ice before”


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russvan 06-23-2022 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3446718)
Why are people butthurt about this? Seems like a good way to introduce the low time pilots to solid experience.

It is a way for Skywest to outsource CRJ pilots' jobs to less qualified, lower paid pilots. Skywest planes on Skywest routes should be flown by Skywest 121 pilots. This is just a way for management to pay its pilots a lot less than they deserve. And now they can say they've "solved" the pilot crisis so Envoy/PSA/Piedmont payscales are unnecessary. We'll get stuck with a $5 raise and like it!

tonsterboy5 06-23-2022 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by b3181981 (Post 3445599)
Pay the FO peanuts for the experience and I'm sure they will have a line of wet commercial guys who don't what to instruct do it and give the captains 110k+. Then when the FO has the time they upgraded and tell the new FO I did it so you can too.

why even pay the captains that much, they can plop a wet ATP and a wet commercial together. Pay the captain a little more than they pay current FOS and they would have takers. This will also help built peoples 1000 121sic /135 Capt Time so they can be a captain on the 121 side which is where they are hurting.


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