Skywest or Eagle
11-27-2012, 08:27 AM
#21
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The general consensus is just be smart about it. In other words, don't make yourself illegal, and don't talk about it. There have even been chief pilots that said this. Personally I don't do outside flying, but have talked to plenty that have (mostly captains, oddly enough). Personally I think the no outside flying policy is BS. FOs are not paid enough to dictate their entire professional services.
11-27-2012, 09:30 AM
#22
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JC23 stop giving someone wrong info about SFO.
SFO LAX AND FAT are all pretty junior on the FO side now, more so on the bro. 11-12 days off on reserve depending on the month. Short call is a 2 hour call out, long call is a 12 hour call out. If you live within an hour of your domicile reserve is not that bad(I've done almost 7 years of it). Considering you're in the military you could pick up as much military leave time you want to supplement pay and the company cant tell you no. That in itself would make your life better than those who can't do that.
SFO LAX AND FAT are all pretty junior on the FO side now, more so on the bro. 11-12 days off on reserve depending on the month. Short call is a 2 hour call out, long call is a 12 hour call out. If you live within an hour of your domicile reserve is not that bad(I've done almost 7 years of it). Considering you're in the military you could pick up as much military leave time you want to supplement pay and the company cant tell you no. That in itself would make your life better than those who can't do that.
I'm not giving anyone wrong info intentionally. I clearly stated that it was based on my situation in 2010.
11-27-2012, 09:34 AM
#23
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Jc23, Skywest is an airline. Airlines change a lot in two years.
SFO is a normal base (not reserve base) on both the CRJ and Bro. There are 35 guaranteed lines on the Bro there right now. SFO is also the 2nd most junior base on the bro right now behind PSP. FAT is typically the most junior base on the Bro but seems to have gone 'slightly' more senior when they reduced the lines.
At 6 months seniority on the bro someone would be a lineholder in PSP and SFO and have a composite in FAT. LAX is a bit more senior but you can pretty much hold a line anywhere on the Bro within a year.
SFO is a normal base (not reserve base) on both the CRJ and Bro. There are 35 guaranteed lines on the Bro there right now. SFO is also the 2nd most junior base on the bro right now behind PSP. FAT is typically the most junior base on the Bro but seems to have gone 'slightly' more senior when they reduced the lines.
At 6 months seniority on the bro someone would be a lineholder in PSP and SFO and have a composite in FAT. LAX is a bit more senior but you can pretty much hold a line anywhere on the Bro within a year.
11-27-2012, 10:01 AM
#24
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Yet you repeated the same info twice, even after somebody corrected you. Tactless blunders indeed.
11-27-2012, 12:02 PM
#25
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I was trying to help a fellow military guy out, I'm sorry guidoverduci if I gave you any bad gouge, that was not my intent, it was merely my experience back in 2010. If you read what I wrote it's fairly spot on. Just giving my opinion on what I thought guidoverduci should do on a forum, because he asked? I apologize if I offended anyone. I don't have a problem being corrected if I'm wrong, but lets not be disrespectful to each other on a forum (myself included). If you feel the need, please PM me and we can exchange numbers and possibly meet up and laugh about it over a beer.
11-28-2012, 07:37 AM
#26
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Guido Verduci,
I would highly encourage giving SkyWest a shot. As an enlisted member of the guard, getting time off for the military is a virtually no questions asked process. You fax in a sheet of paper with your dates and they take the trips off your schedule. If you're gone more than 30 days they'll need a copy of your orders.
SkyWest is as about as good as a regional gets, you'll get to see what civilian airline flying is all about, and unless this costs you an oppurtunity to get command time in the military, I really don't see how it couldn't be a nice addition to your resume.
If you take the brasilia, you'll almost definitely get FAT or SFO, the RJ just depends on how often they are running classes. That said, if you got hired this winter, you'd almost definitely be in FAT or SFO on the jet in a matter of months.
At the end of the day, you already have a great gig, so your only real question is: do you have anything to lose by trying out the regionals?
I would highly encourage giving SkyWest a shot. As an enlisted member of the guard, getting time off for the military is a virtually no questions asked process. You fax in a sheet of paper with your dates and they take the trips off your schedule. If you're gone more than 30 days they'll need a copy of your orders.
SkyWest is as about as good as a regional gets, you'll get to see what civilian airline flying is all about, and unless this costs you an oppurtunity to get command time in the military, I really don't see how it couldn't be a nice addition to your resume.
If you take the brasilia, you'll almost definitely get FAT or SFO, the RJ just depends on how often they are running classes. That said, if you got hired this winter, you'd almost definitely be in FAT or SFO on the jet in a matter of months.
At the end of the day, you already have a great gig, so your only real question is: do you have anything to lose by trying out the regionals?
11-28-2012, 09:44 AM
#27
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Not true. As long as you don't create a duty/flight time limit conflict your Chief Pilot will let you work as a CFI.
11-28-2012, 11:54 AM
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Go read it for yourself Rickair in the PPM under rules of conduct #1. It explicitly states outside flying for hire or compensation is prohibited. I guess if you want to drive off into the weeds about this you could say you are not doing it for compensation, but in the context of the question someone asked if they could supplement their income which is explicitly prohibited in the PPM.
Unless your on a LOA.
Which chief pilot allows it because I need to get some outside flying approved?
Unless your on a LOA.
Which chief pilot allows it because I need to get some outside flying approved?
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11-28-2012, 01:56 PM
#29
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You can't CFI for hire, but you can do it for free or teach ground school 
As far as some people saying that by logging it you are being compensated, not true. You log since you must keep a record of any training given as well as endorsements!
As far as some people saying that by logging it you are being compensated, not true. You log since you must keep a record of any training given as well as endorsements!
11-28-2012, 02:16 PM
#30
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Go read it for yourself Rickair in the PPM under rules of conduct #1. It explicitly states outside flying for hire or compensation is prohibited. I guess if you want to drive off into the weeds about this you could say you are not doing it for compensation, but in the context of the question someone asked if they could supplement their income which is explicitly prohibited in the PPM.
Unless your on a LOA.
Which chief pilot allows it because I need to get some outside flying approved?
Unless your on a LOA.
Which chief pilot allows it because I need to get some outside flying approved?
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