I think they'd be better off with a regional only Union but that will probably never come to fruition. I believe alpa is a major conflict on interest between mainline and regionals.

 

No longer just a regional shagging---look at what they're trying to shove down mother Delta's pilots throats in this time of record profits.

Alpa is done.

 

You are not making sense again. So you say management can't do whatever it wants. Ok, but this isn't just about management. That's what you refuse to grasp, or its more likely that you have the wool pulled over your eyes.



Hehe, we both know what is average and what is above average even if you refuse to actually admit it in writing here.

But I would be MORE THAN HAPPY to point out bullet point by bullet point comparison of the two!

 

LOL oh my god seriously? Tell me I missed the sarcasm in your post.

2nd year pay MORE than makes up for it? You go from $20k to $33k if you're talking only min guarantee. A difference of $13k does not MORE than make up for it. Even if it's more than other airlines it's still a joke.

I could swallow this whole BS first year pay if I went from making $25k to $60k+ the next year, but that's not the case at all. You don't make up any financial losses you incurred during that first year pay. It's literally just a feel good scenario, because you're finally seeing a "real" paycheck.

 

See, that's a golden point you just made there. If airline management breaks a rule and violates whomevers contract, the worst thing that can happen to them is that they're made to abide by whatever rule that they were supposed to follow in the first place.

They never get fined. Not even a slap on the knuckles.

If a pilot breaks a rule, he or she can loose their jobs and thus face extreme financial hardship.

Airline management should face similar punishment. Let's say 10 million per occurrence. All proceeds to be split among the pilot group.

You would see some different attitudes then. But it will never happen.

 

Pretty sure you are talking regulatory issues where he is talking contractual issues.

Sure airlines get fined for mx violations, long on board delays, whatever.

They DO NOT get fined for violating a CBA.

Cool smug last sentence though.

 

This thread is gayer than marriage. So much fail, all around. Go home everybody.

 

Pilots, doing what they do best jamming harpoons into each other. Don't have to be ALPA to do that, they have just perfected it to a higher level, than the other Non-Union carriers pilots.

 

Wrong on more than a few counts, certificate actions only apply to those who hold certificates. Management pogues everywhere don't have any certificates in the fight, only drivers licenses to drive their Bentlys, Ferrarris, and Bugattis to their corner offices. The few that have SEC limits only have to worry if the company shareholders are gonna be paying the fines for them. The massive Freudian slips in your above statement shows that you know very little about this industry, par for a management pogue.

Equating an airline to management, classic! Airlines manage to operate in spite of management, thanks to the front line employees.

Know what happens when you don't show up for work, nothing, except a few less ruffled feathers on APC, know what happens when a pilot, mechanic F/A, ramper ect doesn't come to work, flights get delayed, or cancelled. Small but subtle difference.

Don't you have another masterful waterbottle FOIB to craft?

 

Thanks to The Supremes you can now get married too!