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SunCap 08-28-2017 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 2421161)
Just to hear clear, this checklist on the EFB problem is because it's a buggy Microsoft Surface? Would the issue be much better if it were a non buggy iPad?

Having an ipad may be an improvement. However, for myself, this is more about appropriate use of technology. For checklists, paper has worked for a long time, it is in the same place every time (center of the glare shield in it's holder), it does not require batteries, you can hold it where you want so you can glance at something if you need to confirm an item on the checklist has indeed been done or not, it does not take you off the taxi diagram, or approach plate, that the efb does well at presenting, etc... For the job at hand a paper checklist is the most appropriate technology to use. As much as possible I try to employ the KISS philosophy. I would rather get the checklist done and move on to paying attention to where the plane is going and what ATC is saying.

elmetal 08-28-2017 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by SunCap (Post 2421179)
Having an ipad may be an improvement. However, for myself, this is more about appropriate use of technology. For checklists, paper has worked for a long time, it is in the same place every time (center of the glare shield in it's holder), it does not require batteries, you can hold it where you want so you can glance at something if you need to confirm an item on the checklist has indeed been done or not, it does not take you off the taxi diagram, or approach plate, that the efb does well at presenting, etc... For the job at hand a paper checklist is the most appropriate technology to use. As much as possible I try to employ the KISS philosophy. I would rather get the checklist done and move on to paying attention to where the plane is going and what ATC is saying.

What he said!!!!!

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word302 08-28-2017 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by SunCap (Post 2421179)
Having an ipad may be an improvement. However, for myself, this is more about appropriate use of technology. For checklists, paper has worked for a long time, it is in the same place every time (center of the glare shield in it's holder), it does not require batteries, you can hold it where you want so you can glance at something if you need to confirm an item on the checklist has indeed been done or not, it does not take you off the taxi diagram, or approach plate, that the efb does well at presenting, etc... For the job at hand a paper checklist is the most appropriate technology to use. As much as possible I try to employ the KISS philosophy. I would rather get the checklist done and move on to paying attention to where the plane is going and what ATC is saying.

While I completely agree with you, the same argument could be made for paper charts before the rise of EFBs. The biggest problem I see is being able to view both at once. We also have a procedure for charts in the rare case of a dual EFB flameout. How will we run checklists in this case.

N1234 08-28-2017 06:31 PM

Just brace yourself for the EFB QRC .... let's go all the way!!!!

trip 08-28-2017 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 2421161)
Just to hear clear, this checklist on the EFB problem is because it's a buggy Microsoft Surface? Would the issue be much better if it were a non buggy iPad?

Yes, The Surface is freezing up in sterile times. At the least de-bug the first "known issues" with the power plan before ripping all the checklist out of the A/C.

Flyinlynn 08-28-2017 08:16 PM

Anyone have info on dates for next new hire CRJ class with open seats?

Turbosina 08-28-2017 10:25 PM

SCR and ASAP filed. This is now third time in maybe six days that my POS Surface has frozen during a critical phase of flight.

If they remove the QRCs and put that on the EFB, I'm not getting on the damn airplane.

1800RVR 08-29-2017 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2421348)
SCR and ASAP filed. This is now third time in maybe six days that my POS Surface has frozen during a critical phase of flight.

If they remove the QRCs and put that on the EFB, I'm not getting on the damn airplane.

Same, not sure if it'll do anything but I filed a SCR. Really doubt they'd do a digital QRC, but if they do I'd probably print my own

hawk21 08-30-2017 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by SMACFUM (Post 2421081)
I would seriously reconsider your choices when choosing where to apply. Why would anybody still consider SkyWest to be a good option to work anymore?

Meanwhile my friends at Envoy are being greeted in the jet bridge to get junior manned.

elmetal 08-30-2017 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by hawk21 (Post 2422153)
Meanwhile my friends at Envoy are being greeted in the jet bridge to get junior manned.

Don't act like that doesn't happen here. I've had it happen

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