Will the MRJ fly at Skywest and TSA?
09-05-2016, 03:21 PM
#121
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
That's not the right question, the question is will the government allow Delta to have those slots if Skywest no longer has a contract with Delta, the answer is no, they won't. So a chunk of regional, and mainline flying goes up for bid by the LCC's.
I can see the scope relaxing company scare tactics now. "If you don't allow them to fly the airplanes for us then they'll fly them for a foreign carrier we cant be cost competitive against. It will be the beginning of the end for all of our careers."
09-05-2016, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
So, you are going to seriously tell me that pilot labor costs at regionals are outpacing the majors?
09-05-2016, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
Explode at the cost of mainline jobs? You are kidding, right? Majors don't want to dabble in "regional" flying, and neither do the pilots. This is a bunch of horse crap peddled by unions and those that bow to the feet of those unions.
Well Mr. history, what exactly is regional flying? You may want to ask around who and what a/c served those cities like Lincoln, Minot, Saginaw, Boise, Spokane, Medford, Grand Forks. I'll give you a hint it wasn't a metro.
And I thought unions sucked because they were impotent and feckless. Or is it because they represent both regionals and mainline?
Believe me when I say most of us would be happy to do that "regional" flying again, even in an rj so long as they remove the connection or express.
P.S I prefer the Jennifer Lawrence gif over the Zimmerman one.
09-05-2016, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
That's not the right question, the question is will the government allow Delta to have those slots if Skywest no longer has a contract with Delta, the answer is no, they won't. So a chunk of regional, and mainline flying goes up for bid by the LCC's.
I won't ruin the ending but it doesn't end well.
09-05-2016, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RJDio
You mean like you do and for those regional wages for the last 20+ years?
Well Mr. history, what exactly is regional flying? You may want to ask around who and what a/c served those cities like Lincoln, Minot, Saginaw, Boise, Spokane, Medford, Grand Forks. I'll give you a hint it wasn't a metro.
And I thought unions sucked because they were impotent and feckless. Or is it because they represent both regionals and mainline?
Believe me when I say most of us would be happy to do that "regional" flying again, even in an rj so long as they remove the connection or express.
P.S I prefer the Jennifer Lawrence gif over the Zimmerman one.
Well Mr. history, what exactly is regional flying? You may want to ask around who and what a/c served those cities like Lincoln, Minot, Saginaw, Boise, Spokane, Medford, Grand Forks. I'll give you a hint it wasn't a metro.
And I thought unions sucked because they were impotent and feckless. Or is it because they represent both regionals and mainline?
Believe me when I say most of us would be happy to do that "regional" flying again, even in an rj so long as they remove the connection or express.
P.S I prefer the Jennifer Lawrence gif over the Zimmerman one.
09-05-2016, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RJDio
I believe we've seen the regional owning the slots movie in the past. It was called: ACA.
I won't ruin the ending but it doesn't end well.
I won't ruin the ending but it doesn't end well.
09-05-2016, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jvw700
Skywest is certainly not ACA. You come off as a huge doucher!! If you were previously at a regional it's pretty sad to see you've forgotten your roots!
It's not forgetting where I came from, it's recognizing with whom the leverage lies between regional and mainline.
1st year pay will yield 96k, not including retirement and the other perks of the contract. 2nd year pay will yield more than a 20year e175 non lca. Now why is relaxing scope a bit better?
09-05-2016, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RJDio
How bout the rates that are on the books already. No need to subvert the process.
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09-05-2016, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RJDio
How bout the rates that are on the books already. No need to subvert the process.
It's not forgetting where I came from, it's recognizing with whom the leverage lies between regional and mainline.
1st year pay will yield 96k, not including retirement and the other perks of the contract. 2nd year pay will yield more than a 20year e175 non lca. Now why is relaxing scope a bit better?
It's not forgetting where I came from, it's recognizing with whom the leverage lies between regional and mainline.
1st year pay will yield 96k, not including retirement and the other perks of the contract. 2nd year pay will yield more than a 20year e175 non lca. Now why is relaxing scope a bit better?
Those rates are the reason you will NEVER see 76 seat jets at mainline again!! As long as regionals can staff they'll be around.
The biggest threat to mainline jobs no longer comes from regional airlines! How much market share have the LCC's gained over the years? How about words like cabotage or MPL licensing? What happens when your carrier decides it's more cost effective to code share more and more international routes?
09-05-2016, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
I don't work for regional wages.....I know you think I am this Mike guy, but you seriously have no idea what you are talking about...keep that in mind.
What, you talking about the ages of the milk run, where airlines like NW and Western were serving these markets hopping around with no frequency? You think this day and age serving places like Minot with mainline and with frequency makes good business sense? I am sure Delta would love to start doing that kind of service again....
Unions represent the majors, not the regionals and you know that.
You with a major now, is that why your head has inflated to the size of a pumpkin?
What, you talking about the ages of the milk run, where airlines like NW and Western were serving these markets hopping around with no frequency? You think this day and age serving places like Minot with mainline and with frequency makes good business sense? I am sure Delta would love to start doing that kind of service again....
Unions represent the majors, not the regionals and you know that.
You with a major now, is that why your head has inflated to the size of a pumpkin?
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