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Old 07-26-2017, 02:17 PM
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Personally, I don't use myseniority.com for anything other than domicile seniority snapshot. We are hiring far too many for this to show any accurate information using 1-2% numbers. Besides, these percentage points aren't referring to the airline growth, they're referring to our seniority list growth. Until that stabilizes, it's anyone's guess.

Here's what I do, and maybe some math major can correct me, but I take a WAG on total pilots on seniority list by a specific date in near future and then adjust growth rate to meet that number, and take a snapshot. For example, I've heard things like 11,000 pilots by 2020. I guestimate the growth rate until a date chosen on that chart matches with around 11,000 pilots, then you can have some idea of where you'll stand if that happens at that point.

One thing is for sure - timing is everything.
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Old 07-26-2017, 03:42 PM
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Personally, I don't use myseniority.com for anything other than domicile seniority snapshot. We are hiring far too many for this to show any accurate information using 1-2% numbers. Besides, these percentage points aren't referring to the airline growth, they're referring to our seniority list growth. Until that stabilizes, it's anyone's guess.

Here's what I do, and maybe some math major can correct me, but I take a WAG on total pilots on seniority list by a specific date in near future and then adjust growth rate to meet that number, and take a snapshot. For example, I've heard things like 11,000 pilots by 2020. I guestimate the growth rate until a date chosen on that chart matches with around 11,000 pilots, then you can have some idea of where you'll stand if that happens at that point.

One thing is for sure - timing is everything.
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Old 07-26-2017, 04:25 PM
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If you run the numbers and the company hires the 950 they're claiming to this year plus a thousand next year, we'll be just a touch over 10,000 by the end of 2018 after subtracting out the retirements left this year and all of next year.
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Old 07-26-2017, 05:06 PM
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If you run the numbers and the company hires the 950 they're claiming to this year plus a thousand next year, we'll be just a touch over 10,000 by the end of 2018 after subtracting out the retirements left this year and all of next year.

And I still won't be able to hold summer vacation!


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Old 07-26-2017, 05:11 PM
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And I still won't be able to hold summer vacation!


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Quit whining! You're a socialist! You just want what I earned! Rabble rabble!
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Old 07-26-2017, 05:46 PM
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Quit whining! You're a socialist! You just want what I earned! Rabble rabble!

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Old 07-26-2017, 05:48 PM
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And I still won't be able to hold summer vacation!


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Weren't we supposed to be voting on whether or not to get rid of block bidding vacations?
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Old 07-26-2017, 06:06 PM
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Weren't we supposed to be voting on whether or not to get rid of block bidding vacations?

We are in Nov.


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Old 07-26-2017, 06:21 PM
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Block bidding two weeks max per round seems like a fair compromise to me.
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Old 07-27-2017, 05:37 AM
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Since just about everything that AirTran did was better than what SWA does they should do the vacation bidding the way AirTran did it. One round of biddiding done by pure seniority, at least AirTran didn't do block bids.
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