Well? Nobody's called yet?
05-30-2018, 12:18 PM
#91
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Joined APC: Apr 2017
Position: CL30 Captain
Posts: 99
Originally Posted by Seventhreeseven
I still stand by my previous statement. Can't wait til Rocky's gone and we can hire more civilian pilots. My HR buddy says many people at HQ are fed up with him and can't wait for him to go. But unfortunately they still say yes to his face.
Its a slap in the face to this pilot group that we can't even recommend anyone for a freakin job fair. Now Rocky's boys can select all their friends who have a call sign and can't fly an ILS
Its a slap in the face to this pilot group that we can't even recommend anyone for a freakin job fair. Now Rocky's boys can select all their friends who have a call sign and can't fly an ILS
05-30-2018, 12:52 PM
#92
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 252
Originally Posted by Tbpilot06
All I hear is what Rocky says the company wants from people that work there. Then I look at my own qualifications and say “ I have leadership job experience, Safety Manager , turbine PIC, a masters degree, 5 type ratings ... yet can’t get selected for an interview.
As a former mil fighter guy, I can tell you there’s no magic line to Rocky’s desk or an interview invite. No one can recommend you one way or the other until you get the interview. Even then, any number of recs from folks you flew with won’t save you from a bad interview.
To a man, every pilot in my newhire class was an outstanding pilot and an outstanding person on paper and in person. It’s truly humbling the talent walking in that door from every background.
The whole civ-mil angst spewed on this board is getting pretty f-ing old. Ignore it, because there’s nothing you can do about it. Just keep applying, keep improving, keep trying to be that guy you say you are to an interview panel. All the rest is just luck and timing.
On that note...Good luck in your journey.
05-30-2018, 07:00 PM
#94
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,311
Originally Posted by torpid0
FYI, my class was made up of 1/3 military, 1/3 121 and 1/3 corporate. Very well balanced and not a single douche bag in the group.
05-30-2018, 07:20 PM
#95
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Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 150
Well, all I can say is keep your head up and don't abandon hope.
Military vet, but not a military aviator; BS degree, CFI and RJ pilot, now a low hour 747 ACMI dawg. 4000'ish hours, less than 1000 TPIC. Never a Check Airman or Chief Pilot. There is apparently a small window for 40 y/o civilians.
After failing to earn an invite to the SWA job fair, I kicked dirt and decided that my name and date of birth combo had driven the algorithm to permanently reject me. After 8 years of applying faithfully to every window, and frequently updating my application - this was near the final straw for me, as I got the reserve job fair notice.
On May 25th I received an interview invite from the April 8th window...an interview invite. I'll be headed to Dallas on June 12th, and options were available for June 12 to 14 both 8am and noon to choose from.
Advice: I am now scrambling to add up hours for every single different airplane I have ever flown, and making all of my individual numbers match my total numbers. This is something you can and should do now. Go get some professional application and resume reviews....and then wait.
Best of luck to those aspiring to go to SWA, I'm humbled by the opportunity and challenge that lies a few days ahead. It is just an interview, but at least its a foot in the door.
Military vet, but not a military aviator; BS degree, CFI and RJ pilot, now a low hour 747 ACMI dawg. 4000'ish hours, less than 1000 TPIC. Never a Check Airman or Chief Pilot. There is apparently a small window for 40 y/o civilians.
After failing to earn an invite to the SWA job fair, I kicked dirt and decided that my name and date of birth combo had driven the algorithm to permanently reject me. After 8 years of applying faithfully to every window, and frequently updating my application - this was near the final straw for me, as I got the reserve job fair notice.
On May 25th I received an interview invite from the April 8th window...an interview invite. I'll be headed to Dallas on June 12th, and options were available for June 12 to 14 both 8am and noon to choose from.
Advice: I am now scrambling to add up hours for every single different airplane I have ever flown, and making all of my individual numbers match my total numbers. This is something you can and should do now. Go get some professional application and resume reviews....and then wait.
Best of luck to those aspiring to go to SWA, I'm humbled by the opportunity and challenge that lies a few days ahead. It is just an interview, but at least its a foot in the door.
05-30-2018, 07:22 PM
#96
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Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 463
Originally Posted by Seventhreeseven
I still stand by my previous statement. Can't wait til Rocky's gone and we can hire more civilian pilots. My HR buddy says many people at HQ are fed up with him and can't wait for him to go. But unfortunately they still say yes to his face.
Its a slap in the face to this pilot group that we can't even recommend anyone for a freakin job fair. Now Rocky's boys can select all their friends who have a call sign and can't fly an ILS
Its a slap in the face to this pilot group that we can't even recommend anyone for a freakin job fair. Now Rocky's boys can select all their friends who have a call sign and can't fly an ILS
05-30-2018, 07:40 PM
#97
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 659
Originally Posted by C130driver
I’m sorry us mil guys can’t fly the mighty ILS as well as you! Watch out folks we have a badass here!
05-30-2018, 07:47 PM
#98
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 348
Originally Posted by Seventhreeseven
I still stand by my previous statement. Can't wait til Rocky's gone and we can hire more civilian pilots. My HR buddy says many people at HQ are fed up with him and can't wait for him to go. But unfortunately they still say yes to his face.
Its a slap in the face to this pilot group that we can't even recommend anyone for a freakin job fair. Now Rocky's boys can select all their friends who have a call sign and can't fly an ILS
Its a slap in the face to this pilot group that we can't even recommend anyone for a freakin job fair. Now Rocky's boys can select all their friends who have a call sign and can't fly an ILS
05-31-2018, 02:06 AM
#99
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Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 187
Originally Posted by WacoQCF
Well, all I can say is keep your head up and don't abandon hope.
Military vet, but not a military aviator; BS degree, CFI and RJ pilot, now a low hour 747 ACMI dawg. 4000'ish hours, less than 1000 TPIC. Never a Check Airman or Chief Pilot. There is apparently a small window for 40 y/o civilians.
After failing to earn an invite to the SWA job fair, I kicked dirt and decided that my name and date of birth combo had driven the algorithm to permanently reject me. After 8 years of applying faithfully to every window, and frequently updating my application - this was near the final straw for me, as I got the reserve job fair notice.
On May 25th I received an interview invite from the April 8th window...an interview invite. I'll be headed to Dallas on June 12th, and options were available for June 12 to 14 both 8am and noon to choose from.
Advice: I am now scrambling to add up hours for every single different airplane I have ever flown, and making all of my individual numbers match my total numbers. This is something you can and should do now. Go get some professional application and resume reviews....and then wait.
Best of luck to those aspiring to go to SWA, I'm humbled by the opportunity and challenge that lies a few days ahead. It is just an interview, but at least its a foot in the door.
Military vet, but not a military aviator; BS degree, CFI and RJ pilot, now a low hour 747 ACMI dawg. 4000'ish hours, less than 1000 TPIC. Never a Check Airman or Chief Pilot. There is apparently a small window for 40 y/o civilians.
After failing to earn an invite to the SWA job fair, I kicked dirt and decided that my name and date of birth combo had driven the algorithm to permanently reject me. After 8 years of applying faithfully to every window, and frequently updating my application - this was near the final straw for me, as I got the reserve job fair notice.
On May 25th I received an interview invite from the April 8th window...an interview invite. I'll be headed to Dallas on June 12th, and options were available for June 12 to 14 both 8am and noon to choose from.
Advice: I am now scrambling to add up hours for every single different airplane I have ever flown, and making all of my individual numbers match my total numbers. This is something you can and should do now. Go get some professional application and resume reviews....and then wait.
Best of luck to those aspiring to go to SWA, I'm humbled by the opportunity and challenge that lies a few days ahead. It is just an interview, but at least its a foot in the door.
05-31-2018, 02:18 AM
#100
Strike averted!
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,652
I can’t stress enough to update the credentials page often. Put something in every box, even if it’s an “N/A”. Make sure your medical is current. Update your available date, flight times, whatever.
For those who don’t know, there are two places you need to apply—the Pilot Credentials page AND the SWA careers page.
The recent job fair invitations selected the best qualified guys to fill the slots—it is definitely a way for them to weed out prospective candidates for an interview and thus be more successful in hiring those that interview. How many went out? Like 400?
For those with a hang up on military folks—at least you can rest assured that invites aren’t based on the “squadron buddy” method. That being said, once you interview, your internals can rally for you by walking in a resume or emailing directly to a chief, plus submitting the internal recs.
It seems that passing the computer is the hardest part. It’s an algorithm and a point system.
If you have not received the TBNT email, you aren’t out.
For those who don’t know, there are two places you need to apply—the Pilot Credentials page AND the SWA careers page.
The recent job fair invitations selected the best qualified guys to fill the slots—it is definitely a way for them to weed out prospective candidates for an interview and thus be more successful in hiring those that interview. How many went out? Like 400?
For those with a hang up on military folks—at least you can rest assured that invites aren’t based on the “squadron buddy” method. That being said, once you interview, your internals can rally for you by walking in a resume or emailing directly to a chief, plus submitting the internal recs.
It seems that passing the computer is the hardest part. It’s an algorithm and a point system.
If you have not received the TBNT email, you aren’t out.
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