Gary Kelly Speaks about 3Q19 Results and MAX
10-29-2019, 04:49 AM
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Puddy,
We get it dude. The 220 is a great airplane. I know you are a fan from reading your stuff.
I personally think it would be a great second fleet type at swa, but swa is locked in the 90s and even the smallest challenges like taking Canadian dollars as payment are beyond its capabilities. Don’t look for a second fleet type at swa in the next 10 years.
In the meantime, it will do very well since it fills a niche that lots of airlines are exploring right now, the bigger than 75 and smaller than 150 seat airplane.
We get it dude. The 220 is a great airplane. I know you are a fan from reading your stuff.
I personally think it would be a great second fleet type at swa, but swa is locked in the 90s and even the smallest challenges like taking Canadian dollars as payment are beyond its capabilities. Don’t look for a second fleet type at swa in the next 10 years.
In the meantime, it will do very well since it fills a niche that lots of airlines are exploring right now, the bigger than 75 and smaller than 150 seat airplane.
10-29-2019, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Atl320
Huh? There are hundreds if not a thousand+ orders for the 220.
As of September 2019 525 Total Orders 90 Deliveries.
Net orders for 2019 = -12 (19 Orders - 40 Cancelations + 13 Net options)
Wrong. Several airlines have very recently ordered the A220 (Czech Airlines, Egyptian Express and Air Austral) on top of bigger orders from Air France, JetBlue and Dave Neelman’s Moxy while many more are closely reviewing it.
Commitments plus orders do not even equal a thousand airplanes, much less thousands.
10-29-2019, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Boeing, Airbus and Embraer are lazy. All they do is re-engine older airframes. The A220 is the only serious clean sheet narrowbody out there and they are starting to rack up more and more orders. Time for SWA to join the club!
10-29-2019, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
It appears there are 90 delivered and 435 orders. Sure there will be lots more.
C’mom Gary!
10-29-2019, 09:04 AM
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Transport Canada Issues A220 Emergency AD
https://www.avweb.com/flight-safety/...-emergency-ad/
Guess this is why.
https://www.avweb.com/flight-safety/...-emergency-ad/
Guess this is why.
10-29-2019, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Texasbound
Transport Canada Issues A220 Emergency AD.
In any case, we didn't get much time to discovery the problems with the LEAP engines before the MAX was grounded. Rumors are those motors have their teething issues as well.
10-29-2019, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Texasbound
Transport Canada Issues A220 Emergency AD
https://www.avweb.com/flight-safety/...-emergency-ad/
Guess this is why.
https://www.avweb.com/flight-safety/...-emergency-ad/
Guess this is why.
Simply put, dinosaur 737s designed in the 1960s and 1970s cannot compete on either a CASM or on a passenger comfort basis with the newer, and much more fuel efficient A220.
10-29-2019, 12:55 PM
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It’s all about the upfront costs of a new program and fleet-type. Considering how frequently it’s done at other carriers and they are still highly profitable, I can’t imagine it wouldn’t be worth it to get the best plane, in every respect, in its class.
10-29-2019, 01:08 PM
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Gary Kelly Speaks about 3Q19 Results and MAX
Originally Posted by David Puddy
All SWISS airplanes recently inspected are now flying again. Delta continues to fly their A220s.
Simply put, dinosaur 737s designed in the 1960s and 1970s cannot compete on either a CASM or on a passenger comfort basis with the newer, and much more fuel efficient A220.
Simply put, dinosaur 737s designed in the 1960s and 1970s cannot compete on either a CASM or on a passenger comfort basis with the newer, and much more fuel efficient A220.
I think you are way off the mark here. On a cost basis, I think a 737 Max is going to prove to be just about the cheapest airplane out there for CASM. Airlines like DL may be able to pull off a higher PRASM number with the 220, but that has more to do with their network and product.
Pax comfort is mostly about cabin configuration. The 737 sucks, but having ridden all different carriers and many different airframes, I would take a mid cabin window seat or exit row on the 2 seat side of a MD80 over just about any other domestic product.
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