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Originally Posted by Proximity (Post 2928098)

Pretty sure the previous window is over. A number of people got TBNTs from the last opening today. Due to a reduction in classes, not many were interviewed.

Next window will likely open end of January.

FWIW, my summer window thing still says "submission received", and I haven't yet seen a TBNT. I'm not expecting an interview any time soon, but I'm hopeful that means something.

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Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2928326)

Not entirely accurate..... At least at Delta there are MANY choices you have to make, each with significant opportunity cost. You will be able to hold left seat pretty quick if you pick a smaller category and/or base yourself in NYC or LA for example. It will be awhile to bid 777 captain in ATL, but even now a new hire will have amazing seniority portability around the system depending on the base and the companies equipment decisions.

So if LEFT seat is YOUR goal, you will do much better at a legacy than SWA for quite some time. It may not be your dream assignment though, that is why often WB FO is significantly more senior at some bases than the NB Captain positions.

Yeah, poor example on my part. I guess what I was alluding to is that those being hired today will not crack the top seniority bracket at Delta unless they are very young. This is because they have front loaded a lot of their hiring with a very young pilot group from 2014-present.
You’re right, there are junior captain positions there and that does provide those who are motivated with great options.
The point of my reply is that as a percentage of the pilot group, all the big airlines are going to see massive movement in the next 10 years. This includes SW, but to a lesser degree.
A relatively young 2014 hire at any of the legacy airlines is in a very enviable position. The same applies to SWA, but their reward will be delayed a few years.

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Originally Posted by Cozmo (Post 2928470)

FWIW, my summer window thing still says "submission received", and I haven't yet seen a TBNT. I'm not expecting an interview any time soon, but I'm hopeful that means something.

Same here. Not sure if that means that much. Probably still applying to the next window in 2020 before hearing anything. Hut I'll keep checking the email!

The quick upgrades at AA are on the 190 in PHL.

The quick upgrades (5 yrs I think?) at UAL are in SFO and EWR 737 and 320.

The quick upgrades at DL are on the MD-88, 717 and C-Series (maybe the 320/737?).

Good if you live in those bases and want the extra pay. I wouldn’t commute to a garbage schedule just for some more pay.

Choices are what those airlines offer. Choice of fleet gives you different routes, etc.

Well same here I guess, submission still says submission received on SW career page, no contact from SW though. Does that mean anything?

It doesn’t mean much. It may stay “submission received” forever. “Closed complete” means no.

I had a “closed complete” with a TBNT email followed by a “submission received” followed by what assume was the fateful application window that got me the invite.

Let’s be honest, if you have to work till 67 you either have 4 ex wives, have no life or can’t do basic math for saving in retirement. I couldn’t do any of the above so married a women who could do basic math. SMH staying in this industry till 67 let alone 65

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Originally Posted by Kapitanleutnant (Post 2926160)

Not to worry about the increase in retirements.... FAA will increase the retirement age to 67 and 11 months in 2020!

Kap

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Originally Posted by iaveight (Post 2929394)

Except you might as well stay on, especially if you have good relative seniority. I figure if near the end I don't need to work anymore I'll be able to dump 10 trips per year via vacation drop, giveaway 1-2 trips per month, and I'd probably be "sick" a few times per year also. That would leave me with 2 trips per month...and on today's pay rates that would be $150k with profit share and b-fund. Not bad for working 2x per month Tues-Thurs.

However, pilots that are 64.5 years old and are still hammering out 150TFP of straight time every month..I hope that's not me.

Prox...

Agree with your assessment! That would be exactly my plan... to basically be semi retired and fly 1 to 2 trips per month.

Kap

My birthday is early in the year so my last few months will be vacation with one final turn or something before I pull the parachute. Prob get yelled at for landing currency before I retire.